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Old 04-02-2005, 02:53 PM
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TT Video from one hitter's perspective
Having a video to look at instead of visualizing word pictures has its advantages. I have been auditioning pieces from TT's excellent video and found some pieces to be a great help. On the other hand, some pieces have simply not worked with the rest of my hitter's swing. Today I made decisions about what to leave in and what to kick out and the driving range and my results were most exciting. Wondering if someone disagrees with any my choices based on trying to dig the truth out of "the dirt".

LEAVING IN
The first homerun for me from the video is the stepped backswing suggested. I needed to transplant my angled flying wedge for his horizontal flying wedge but the rest of what he suggested works great. On the range, it happened that there was a mirror behind my stall. Doing TT's backswing while lookiing at the mirror, my plane going back was nearly exactly what I wanted and with a little practice I became very consistent with the method TT suggested.

The second homerun is my favorite move. Dropping my right shoulder at the top to move my hips slightly forward worked astoundingly well for me. It made the rest of my swing click into a higher gear.

LEAVING OUT
The suggested straight down path for the swing plane so you can "hit out at the ball, hit out at the ball" didn't work well with my angled flying wedge. I ended up shanking the ball frequently as my hitting out at the ball caused me to hit the ball on the hosel Hitting the inside of the ball also cause me to vary from my plane line and therefore didn't help. The key for me to was ride the most accurate plane I could and therefore give up on coming from the inside. In the same way, the "long right arm" "concept wasn't consistent with my effort to make a " paddlewheel hitter's motion. I also tried the horizontal flying hinge which TT used "90% of the time, and didn't feel comfortable using it with the rest of my "hitter's" motion. Finally, I thought the pivot he suggested was more active than what was necessary for a "right forearm" based swing.

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Old 04-02-2005, 06:08 PM
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While it was nice of you to take the time to respond, but your response perplexes me.

To begin with, it is less than flattering when someone uses the "there is no crying in baseball" as an analogy to answer ones post. It makes it seem as if I am whining rather than attempting to learn.

Second, depending on whether one uses angled hinging or horizontal hinging the swing is different. Yet your language suggests that TT's horizontally hinged swing should be copied by a hitter attempting an angle hinged swing. TT showed that the two follow throughs were quite different and Yoda has demonstrated that as well. Yet you don't seem to deal with that detail. I placed the fact that I was a hitter in my headline, and yet nothing in your response deals with the differences between hitter's swings and swingers swings. Your consistent viewpoint is that everything must be exactly as TT suggests it.

While your time was appreciated, all three of your responses to me suggest that everything in the Video about TT's horizontally hinged swing, applies to my horizontally hinged swing. I don't have the impression that that statement is true. I would feel better about that idea if I could hear it from someone else.
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:09 PM
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I had fun working on extensor action today to help turn my low paddlewheel htting action into something approaching a "long right arm". But I simply don't agree that everything that TT suggests, I have an obligation to accept. The swing out at the ball motion he demonstrates so vividly only works properly with a horizontal hinge the way he demonstrates it on the video, imo.

I have deeply indebted to Lynn Blake and everyone associated with this website. As a result of the content of this website, the quality of my ball striking has gone up dramatically. I know that you are very knowledgeble about the The Golfing Machine, as well as having taken lessons from TT. Unfortunately, you seem to take it personally when someone suggests that they are not following Homer's book accurately. I have about a week before my golf league starts and I need to put a working system in place. The day I wrote my previous post, I had just come back from the range and hit the ball better than I remembered hitting it previously. I reported the changes that had produced the best results. I had floundered when I tried hitting "out at the ball" shanking 6 or 7 times. I did much better when I focused on staying on plane instead of coming inside of the plane coming down, so I could hit out at the ball. The shanks disappeared immediately.

I fear you and I think quite differently, and wonder if it may not make sense for you to pass my posts by, rather than becoming upset about them. The last thing I want to do is cause anyone distress at my favorite golf website.
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Old 04-03-2005, 06:20 PM
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Re: More Study is the Key
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
"Extensor Action gives an indispensable control to all strokes." 6-B-1-D

13. The Clubhead travels Down-and-Out until it reaches its "Low Point".

14. Divots are taken "Down-and-Out"---not just "Down".

I believe my swing is in conformance with those suggestions.

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Tomasello added the out portion to equation in addition to down at release. With down and out....the result is the ball will move forward. Divergent force vector concept!!!
When Tomasello said "hit out at the ball, hit out at the ball". he was talking about out in front of him. That movement worked imo because of his horizontal hinging. I found it didn't work for me with my angled hinging in fact it cause me to hit repeated shanks.

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At this point, this is the best I can do...I would suggest that you go see an authorized instructor of the golfing machine if you're concerned about starting the golf season next week and producing consistent golf shots, and this is something that Homer suggests...."With or without professional instruction. Preferable with. Advisedly with! Imploredly with!!!"

Side note (to the whole forum): You must watch the Tomasello video series more than once...it takes some study to fully grasp what Tommy taught.
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Despite the fact that I am entirely self taught in The Golfing Machine, I am hitting the ball better on the range than I can ever remember hitting it in my life. I played one round of golf and the person I played with was quite impressed by the improvement that I showed. I have told myself that I would take a lesson when a problem develops that I can't handle. But at the moment, it has been very smooth sailing and I keep improving. Not to say that I am not anxious for Yoda to come out with a video, which I would buy in a heartbeat. Also if I was 3 or 4 hours drive from Atlanta, I would take lessons with Ted or Yoda without a doubt. I am less confident about instructors closer by New York, because I simply don't know who the good instructors are, and particularly who would be good for my "hitting" swing.

I happen to be accustomed to and very proficient about teaching myself. Also people on this forum and the TT video has been very informative. I didn't set out to do it on my own. But at the moment, it just has been working that way.
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