I am having trouble flipping and I am having a hard time figguring out what is causing it. I have been looking at video and from what I can tell my elbow plane loops, my right elbow goes above the plane on the backswing and in the transition drops below it, then returns to the set up plane about half way down. I also notice that in my swing I dont get extension away from the body after the shot. If you look from behind, going fram by frame, in my six iron shot you see no space/light between my hands/lower arms and my body on the frame immediately after impact. Also, I can easily make the club swoosh one foot or more after normal ball position if I hold th club a foot off the ground, but if I drop it to the ground and swing there it is at the ball or behind. furthermore, if I do have forward shaft lean at impact with a lower ball flight I do not get the distance I should. For reference purposes I used to hit 5 irons 190+ on normal swings and could go up to 200 if I ripped at it. Now it is hard to get 180. Driver carry was once as far as 285 on good swings and the spin rate would allow some roll now 255-260 is my carry and the ball baloons, no roll. I can currently swing a speed stick, maybe not 100% accurate but somewhere close, between 125 very easy, and 135 if I go all out. any thoughts????
Last edited by shootin4par : 12-03-2005 at 08:39 PM.
Learn the flying wedges and do not, under any circumstances, allow them to become unaligned once they are set. Assuming you are a swinger, allow the pivot to transport them through impact and into your finish. This requires very "quiet hands" which turn and roll only, cocking and uncocking are automatic without disrupting the wedge alignments. Homer called the wedges "The Flying Wedges" because they fly like an aircraft wing structure, through space on a predetermined flight plan destination. If the wing structure changes, the wing bends and guess what? The aircraft is out of control. I fought flipping for a long time and the magic formula that cured the ailament was to be consciously aware of the wedge alignments and allow the pivot to take them through their destination. Zone 3 (the hands) delivered by a structured on-plane zone 2 (arms) using extensor action, powered by zone 1 the pivot.
As you get comfortable allowing the pivot to transport your quiet hands, which lead the clubhead through impact, you can then begin focusing on pressure points and aiming the lag pressure using #3 PP.
There is a great drill that Yoda likes to use and you will see in the Collin Neeman video. Begin with Basic Motion (chipping) and take it to acquired motion (pitch shots) which is your arms never pass parallel to the ground. Resist the urge to swivel into the finish. Never let the clubhead pass your hands. Over time, work up to 150 yard pitch shots with your 5 iron and you'll get the idea.
And there is always that high tech wet mop, wet towel over the clubhead drill...
Opps...I just saw that this is the TGM Basic thread, looks like I have some splain'in to do...
Learn the flying wedges and do not, under any circumstances, allow them to become unaligned once they are set. Assuming you are a swinger, allow the pivot to transport them through impact and into your finish. This requires very "quiet hands" which turn and roll only, cocking and uncocking are automatic without disrupting the wedge alignments. Homer called the wedges "The Flying Wedges" because they fly like an aircraft wing structure, through space on a predetermined flight plan destination. If the wing structure changes, the wing bends and guess what? The aircraft is out of control. I fought flipping for a long time and the magic formula that cured the ailament was to be consciously aware of the wedge alignments and allow the pivot to take them through their destination. Zone 3 (the hands) delivered by a structured on-plane zone 2 (arms) using extensor action, powered by zone 1 the pivot.
As you get comfortable allowing the pivot to transport your quiet hands, which lead the clubhead through impact, you can then begin focusing on pressure points and aiming the lag pressure using #3 PP.
There is a great drill that Yoda likes to use and you will see in the Collin Neeman video. Begin with Basic Motion (chipping) and take it to acquired motion (pitch shots) which is your arms never pass parallel to the ground. Resist the urge to swivel into the finish. Never let the clubhead pass your hands. Over time, work up to 150 yard pitch shots with your 5 iron and you'll get the idea.
And there is always that high tech wet mop, wet towel over the clubhead drill...
Opps...I just saw that this is the TGM Basic thread, looks like I have some splain'in to do...
MJ, not saying I swing a driver that fast but to get the speed stick to 125 is very easy for me and swinging all out I get it 135. I used to carry range balls 285 on good days and frequently had days where i would hit 5 or so drives at 300+ during a round. That is why I have been frustrated at golf for the last year or so, because I lost 30+ yards and cannot play into a headwind of more then 10 mph without taking 3 extra clubs. enough about all that, onto the findings
So I put it on tape with john and he looked at it. The answer is, flying wedges, and much more!!!! SO here is what happens, currently I am a rotary swinger where I NEVER have hands controlled pivot. I also loose spine angle before impact and therefore MUST straighten everything out to get down to the ball with the club. THe club passes my hands very early in the follow through.
The cool thing was that he put a shaft in the ground in front of me and I had to make sure that I missed the shaft on the follow through. This stops the clubhead from passing the hands. Well He had me take some practice swings with it there and put that on tape and guess what????? I had flying wedges, and a whole lot of other things allinged. Now I know what I can work on and the drill will take some time but at least it is figured out.
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