Help!!

[8cork]

My swing feels better than it ever has, with the help of the Lynn Blake, Jeff Hull Videos. Can you have the three imperatives and still roundhouse? I am hitting some great shots, but many are near the heel with an occasional hosel rocket. The only thing I can see that may happen is that I am not tracing a straight plane line on the downswing. It seems as though my right shoulder is moving my hands away from my body and I am coming into impact over plane. Any thoughts?

[alex_chung]

My swing feels better than it ever has, with the help of the Lynn Blake, Jeff Hull Videos. Can you have the three imperatives and still roundhouse? I am hitting some great shots, but many are near the heel with an occasional hosel rocket. The only thing I can see that may happen is that I am not tracing a straight plane line on the downswing. It seems as though my right shoulder is moving my hands away from my body and I am coming into impact over plane. Any thoughts?

I would work on downstroke waggles (and plenty of them) I have/had the problem of roundhousing as well and from my time with Yoda and Yodasluke, they said that working on the startdown with the downstroke waggles was the only way to get rid of the roundhousing.
When you get it right, the right shoulder goes downplane rather than out and round. I know that when I get it right the right shoulder goes down a lot further than you think it should and its a very powerful feeling.
Alex

[Martee]

No you can't roundhouse and have the three imperatives.

One factor or move that might help is to set up at Impact Fix. That includes the hips and shoulders being position as they would be at impact. Get the feeling where the right shoulder is suppose to be. Care should be taken when returning to adjusted address not to move the head. Then do the down stroke waggle, feel and look look look to ensure the right shoulder is in fact moving down and out on plane, not forward.

[alex_chung]

No you can't roundhouse and have the three imperatives.

One factor or move that might help is to set up at Impact Fix. That includes the hips and shoulders being position as they would be at impact. Get the feeling where the right shoulder is suppose to be. Care should be taken when returning to adjusted address not to move the head. Then do the down stroke waggle, feel and look look look to ensure the right shoulder is in fact moving down and out on plane, not forward.

Yep, do what was said above too. Impact Fix can show a lot of things that have gone wrong or have not been set up right.
Roundhousing means that you have to lose at least one or more of the 3 imperatives to enable to hit the ball (or at least hit the ball somewhere near the target)
Alex

[6bmike]

Downstroke waggles- yes, do them
Impact fix- yes.

my take-

You may be tracing a straight line but one this is parallel to the plane line. Your arms be my extending to far out or collapsing inward. In each of these cases your right forearm is not returning on plane.

Check out the archives- Chapter 7- Magic of the Right Forearm. Yoda explains everything.

Here are some excerpts- pure Yoda:

"In other words, you 'hit the ball' not only with your #3 Pressure Point, you hit it with your entire Right Side -- Shoulder, Forearm and #3 Pressure Point (balanced with #1 if you want) -- all On Plane directly behind the Clubshaft and Driving the Clubhead Lag and Sweetspot toward the Plane Line. And when you get it right...

It's Delicious.

Absolutely delicious."

And……this one,

"The Magic of the Right Forearm (7-3) does not end with the Right
Forearm Takeaway. Unlike the disruptive Shoulder Turn Takeaway -- which
keeps the Clubhead too 'low' and thus necessitates a Single Shift (10-7-B) to
achieve a Turned Shoulder Plane -- the Right Forearm Pick Up takes the
Club instantly and simultaneously Up, In and Back with Zero
Shift (10-7-A) on a Turned Shoulder Plane (10-6-B). This Three Dimensional
Start Up (2-F) parallels the Three Dimensional Impact -- Downward
(Attack Angle), Outward (Plane Angle) and Forward (Approach Angle) [2-C-0] --
that is so necessary for Maximum Compression.

This geometrically correct Start Up is the best way to assure that you arrive
at the Top with minimal adjustment required with regards to the Plane Line,
Lag Loading and Right Forearm Position (12-3 / Section 6 / #19-#23). Then,
you have only to return the Right Forearm precisely to its own Angle of
Approach (7-3) as established at Impact Fix (8- .

This assures the Downward element so often missing from the Impacts of
even the best players. It thereby eliminates the Clubface 'Wobble' (and Lost
Compression) that occurs during Impacts where the Clubhead comes in too low
and Laying Back.

"As it goes back, so it tends to come down."

The Magic of the Right Forearm -- in both directions -- is the open
door to your Best Golf."

Pure Lynn, pure Yoda. Taught by Homer.


Go check it out.

[8cork]

Thanks for the help guys, that's one of the many things I love about this forum. Martee, if I can't get this straightened out soon, I may drive over the mountain to get another set of eyes watching. I'm not too far from Linville.

[phillygolf]

My swing feels better than it ever has, with the help of the Lynn Blake, Jeff Hull Videos. Can you have the three imperatives and still roundhouse? I am hitting some great shots, but many are near the heel with an occasional hosel rocket. The only thing I can see that may happen is that I am not tracing a straight plane line on the downswing. It seems as though my right shoulder is moving my hands away from my body and I am coming into impact over plane. Any thoughts?

Hi 8cork..

Seems to me you nailed it yourself: I am not tracing a straight plane line on the downswing. It seems as though my right shoulder is moving my hands away from my body and I am coming into impact over plane.

I would say (or write) that, at the least, roundhousing would lead to an offplane motion just as you described!

So....the next question would be....

How to eliminate roundhousing, no?

-Patrick

[8cork]

I have started hitting the ball solid again. But instead of focusing on my shoulders, or hips, I have only been concentrating on rotating around an anchored right knee. Another words, I try and keep my right knee as stable as I can on the backswing. It feels very solid, like I am putting more pressure into the ground than before. Solid contact and alot of pop on the ball. My only conclusion is that I am in some way restricting my hip movement and preventing a roundhouse move. Anyone have any thoughts?? I hope this is not a bandaid fix.

[phillygolf]

I have started hitting the ball solid again. But instead of focusing on my shoulders, or hips, I have only been concentrating on rotating around an anchored right knee. Another words, I try and keep my right knee as stable as I can on the backswing. It feels very solid, like I am putting more pressure into the ground than before. Solid contact and alot of pop on the ball. My only conclusion is that I am in some way restricting my hip movement and preventing a roundhouse move. Anyone have any thoughts?? I hope this is not a bandaid fix.

Well 8,
Thoughts?

Cant go wrong with the um, damn, now what the hell are they called?

Oh yeah....something about imperatives.

I think.

Not sure, just a guess!

Patrick