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Old 03-09-2008, 07:12 PM
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I am working diligently on setting up for an on center impact etc. My mishit is a fraction towards the heel.

Possible reasons for this:

1. Ball positioned too far up plane, hence too much inside out
2. My hands returning below impact fix height, or under plane.

I adjusted for the above…but still would hit 2/5 towards the heel.

I then started thinking that my weight may be too much towards my toes at impact…and therefore probably towards the balls at address. Here is my question: At impact fix the weight should be where it will be at impact, correct? I am assuming that the weight should be towards the balls of the feet at impact, right? Would that then predicate the weight to be towards the heels at address? It would seem that the normal movement would be from heels to balls...never the toetsies.

So in summation…If I start from fix my weight would be towards the balls of my feet. If I start from an adjusted address the weight would be towards the heels? I did a quick scan of my 7th Addiction and I did not find anything related to this.

Any pointers on this particular issue?
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:41 PM
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I am working diligently on setting up for an on center impact etc. My mishit is a fraction towards the heel.

Possible reasons for this:

1. Ball positioned too far up plane, hence too much inside out
2. My hands returning below impact fix height, or under plane.

I adjusted for the above…but still would hit 2/5 towards the heel.

I then started thinking that my weight may be too much towards my toes at impact…and therefore probably towards the balls at address. Here is my question: At impact fix the weight should be where it will be at impact, correct? I am assuming that the weight should be towards the balls of the feet at impact, right? Would that then predicate the weight to be towards the heels at address? It would seem that the normal movement would be from heels to balls...never the toetsies.

So in summation…If I start from fix my weight would be towards the balls of my feet. If I start from an adjusted address the weight would be towards the heels? I did a quick scan of my 7th Addiction and I did not find anything related to this.

Any pointers on this particular issue?
Swinging or Hitting?

What is the ball doing when you give it the heel job (start line, height and curvature)?

Have you over done the karate chopping?
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:51 PM
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Swinging. Poor shots are a slight push...but even some of the straight shots are a smidge towards the heel. What do you think about the weight starting on the ball of the foot ...then moving towards the toes due to the throw out action? It is more pronounced with short irons (heel)
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Swinging. Poor shots are a slight push...but even some of the straight shots are a smidge towards the heel. What do you think about the weight starting on the ball of the foot ...then moving towards the toes due to the throw out action? It is more pronounced with short irons (heel)
I would bet you are over doing the karate chop deal and gettting under plane. You are a good player so I doubt you are a roundhouser. So you can come close to the hosel from the inside too. If you got the chop deal going too much you'll start coming from under and the sweetspot will be late rolling off the face of the plane.

Do you have a high finish?
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:02 PM
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I don't think my finish is especially high. What do you think about the weight distribution? Do you think I may be moving too far forward to the toes as a result of the throw out? I guess I am asking a 101 question about where the weight ought to be at fix v. adjusted. I address the ball towards the toe per 2-J-1...but still hit it 1/4 of an inch off center (driver) I started to hit them on the button once I moved the weight towards the heels for adjusted address in preparation for the throw out which moved my weight towards the balls of my feet at impact...then back to the left heel/right toe in the finish. I do not recall a thread on this topic...or a paragraph in the book that speaks to this. I am working VERY hard on impact/address alignments. This represents an important part of my pre-shot prep. I think starting with the weight on the balls of the feet promotes a slight OT move...and may contribute to a stuck right hip going back...and therefore a stuck right hip coming down. The weight I figure has got to move to the right heel going back...then move to the balls at impact...then to the left heel through the finish. Savvy?
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I don't think my finish is especially high. What do you think about the weight distribution? Do you think I may be moving too far forward to the toes as a result of the throw out? I guess I am asking a 101 question about where the weight ought to be at fix v. adjusted. I address the ball towards the toe per 2-J-1...but still hit it 1/4 of an inch off center (driver) I started to hit them on the button once I moved the weight towards the heels for adjusted address in preparation for the throw out which moved my weight towards the balls of my feet at impact...then back to the left heel/right toe in the finish. I do not recall a thread on this topic...or a paragraph in the book that speaks to this. I am working VERY hard on impact/address alignments. This represents an important part of my pre-shot prep. I think starting with the weight on the balls of the feet promotes a slight OT move...and may contribute to a stuck right hip going back...and therefore a stuck right hip coming down. The weight I figure has got to move to the right heel going back...then move to the balls at impact...then to the left heel through the finish. Savvy?

Hard to say without seeing it . . . but if you do move towards the toes it could certainly bring the heel closer to the ball. But actually pulling out of it could do that too because the arms get longer earlier.

Lotsa stuff going on . . . or could be going on.
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Old 03-09-2008, 11:46 PM
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Does the book mention where the weight in the feet ought to be?
Hogan said in Power Golf “None of the weight should rest on the club head point of contact. That would be true if the weight is back through the heel as it should be.” p. 38

Where the weight is in the foot is obviously of prime concern, especially for impact fix, otherwise you are not properly “measured” for an on center collision. As I mentioned in my original post…weight on the balls at fix…weight on the heels at adjusted address got me hitting it in the screws again…if I had me some… on that monstrosity of a thing called a driver! I pine for persimmon!

Balance - state in which all opposing forces cancel each other out - HK

Do you think the weight is placed towards the heels in order to accommodate, or cancel out the throw out action that moves the weight towards the balls of the feet? Pardon the fetish, but there are only two contact points…the hands and the feet…like in any sport footwork is the heart of balance.
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Old 03-10-2008, 12:36 AM
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Pardon the fetish, but there are only two contact points…the hands and the feet…like in any sport footwork is the heart of balance.
Nicklaus claimed that a fine way to learn balance and prevent head movement was to practice swinging from the insides of the feet and that required an equal distribution of weight at address, not only between the two feet but also between the ball and heel of each foot.
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Do you think the weight is placed towards the heels in order to accommodate, or cancel out the throw out action that moves the weight towards the balls of the feet?
Gregg Mchatton emphatically expressed this specifically in one of his DVD's.
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Could be something as simple as adjusting the lies on your irons.
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