Johnny Miller

[PH17]

I walked in late tonight and caught some comments from Johnny Miller on The Golf Channel. He was talking about how to work the ball. He talked about the need to come in to the ball square creating perfect compression. Then as the ball is still compressed you must learn how to manipulate the club face to program in the fade or draw. He talked about the Pro action for a draw as a ball that explodes essential straight (he referenced the different sound of a ball perfectly compressed) to the apex and then falls slightly left. He was promoting his school with John junior.

Sounds a lot like TGM hinge action to me and he may be an unofficial certified TGM instructor.

[rchang72]

Yeah, everything was TGM. The "brush-brush drill" to simulate impact (impact fix and basic motion), hinge action. What I was a bit upset with was Johnny's comment as he was talking about the hinge action, "I never read anything about this." Like he came up with it on his own!!! Better send him a little yellow book

[lagster]

I am pretty sure Mr. Miller worked with Ben Doyle. Mr. Doyle helped bring him out of his slump during the late 1970's or early 1980's. He went on to win several more times.

[brianmanzella]

Ben did several Johnny Miller junior camps with JM and taught him a bunch.

Funny thing, I got two calls from very knowledgeable pros about Miller's show and they were very underwelmed.

[6bmike]

Ben did several Johnny Miller junior camps with JM and taught him a bunch.

Funny thing, I got two calls from very knowledgeable pros about Miller's show and they were very underwelmed.

Lynn taught us to control distance by controlling thrust. Exactly like the way an outfielder throws a ball to the bases or home plate- same arm action, different amount of thrust for various distance the ball is thrown.

Miller spoke us this as his ‘secret’ to his legendary control of his iron shots. This runs counter (surprise!) to what Pelz teaches the ‘masses’ in order to control distance with his clock face method. Yet, Miller speaks of Mickelson using thrust control to dial in his shots. I guess the gander ain’t good enough for the goose when it comes to mainstream golf instruction.

[efnef]

I was sitting there last night with my jaw gaping open. Sounded like pure TGM to me, too.

[dclaryjr]

I was sitting there last night with my jaw gaping open. Sounded like pure TGM to me, too.

I haven't watched it yet but the ones and zeros are safely stored on my DVR for later review. Perhaps another candidate for Blakebuster Video?

[Yoda]

I haven't watched it yet but the ones and zeros are safely stored on my DVR for later review. Perhaps another candidate for Blakebuster Video?

Bring it on, dclaryjr! Just PM Bagger for details on how to get from 'there to here.'

[hue]

I posted this on Chuck's website

http://www.chuckevansgolf.com/forum/...light=mill er

but it may be of interest

This is taken from Johnny Miller's Golf Tips a collection of tips that he did when working for NBC.
http://www.chuckevansgolf.com/forum....st&p=14945
IMPACT

Back in January 1975 I was playing a practice round with Jack Nicklaus at the Tournament of Champions. I will never forget it. We were walking off the 5th green and he says to me

" Johnny what the heck are you working on in your game? You won 8 tournaments last year and you are playing great this year."

And I was sort of surprised by this question because Jack Nicklaus is of course the greatest player in the world. Why is he asking me my advice? But I turned the question around and said " What are you working on? " He said " You won't believe this but almost every hole every dayI try something different. and he said "What are you working on Johnny?" and I said well believe it or notfor about 5 years I have been working on getting into the impact position correctly. Working on the sensations of impact. And there was this long silence and he said " Nobody can think about impact" And I said ,had to say Jack I have been working on it for 5 years and at first I could not really feel impact but after 5 years of working on it I got to the point where I could almost stop impact in my mind. I knew where it was. I know the positions I should be in and that is why I am playing so well. I do believe the moment of truth obviously is impact and an inch or so after impact while the ball is just leaving the clubface. Let me show you some of these impact positions. Sort of pros and cons OK.
For me when when I swing and come down and hit impact you will notice a couple of things. The first and most important thing is the shaft angle is good. 90* or a little ahead . The club is right here on centred right here on my zipper. The right knee is in here and importantly the right elbow is pointed right at the hip bone.


He then talks about various dodgy hackers impact positions and then says


So work on those things that I talked about

Shaft angle 90* or a little ahead

Club right here centred
Knee in and right elbow at the right hip


There is nothing more important in the game of golf than those things. So work on them .



Later in the video he has a section called

4 keys to good ball striking .

Where he says the great ball strikers do these 4 things

1) Keep it square . Where in the hitting area the greats keep the clubface square to the line a long time.

2) Stay down the line . The second key is to stay down the line a long time.

3) Keep the clubhead low through the hitting area.


4) Firm through impact. Here Miller points out that a wrist flip is bad and all the greats have a flat lead wrist through the hitting area.

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Last edited by hue : 03-17-2005 at 12:07 AM.