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Old 03-08-2008, 10:30 PM
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What I learned from my son's batting instruction
I send my son to Joe Barth, The Hit Doctor in Cherry Hill, NJ. He has half a warehouse with Astro Turf and netting and teaches baseball skills to a full house every day. Teams and players from the east coast come and visit him year round. There isn’t a college coach or pro scout that doesn’t call Joe for a player recommendation. Joe has an outstanding staff so when one of them talks about batting, like EF Hutton, everyone listens. But…. as one instructor explained: “Words evoke different ideas to different students.” What I say to one student may not be what your son needs to do. Penick said this to Kite about Crenshaw’s lessons and visa versa. He went on, “I use different words to achieve different results from different students. I have to see how they as simulate the information- so if you hear me say that the batting stroke starts with “this” it is because he has no “this” but if your player has too much “this, I will teach with “That” instead.

I think the general world of golf instruction is full of this ease-dropping. No big picture- no ‘elephant’as Lynn says. TGM has little of this problem because of its vernacular
Evokes precise actions. I think Homer Kelley’s vocabulary is his great contribution to golf. Problems arise when some ask for ‘Plain English’ and other words are added to the instruction. So be careful of what you ‘hear’- it may not be what you need.
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:37 AM
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I send my son to Joe Barth, The Hit Doctor in Cherry Hill, NJ. He has half a warehouse with Astro Turf and netting and teaches baseball skills to a full house every day. Teams and players from the east coast come and visit him year round. There isn’t a college coach or pro scout that doesn’t call Joe for a player recommendation. Joe has an outstanding staff so when one of them talks about batting, like EF Hutton, everyone listens. But…. as one instructor explained: “Words evoke different ideas to different students.” What I say to one student may not be what your son needs to do. Penick said this to Kite about Crenshaw’s lessons and visa versa. He went on, “I use different words to achieve different results from different students. I have to see how they as simulate the information- so if you hear me say that the batting stroke starts with “this” it is because he has no “this” but if your player has too much “this, I will teach with “That” instead.

I think the general world of golf instruction is full of this ease-dropping. No big picture- no ‘elephant’as Lynn says. TGM has little of this problem because of its vernacular
Evokes precise actions. I think Homer Kelley’s vocabulary is his great contribution to golf. Problems arise when some ask for ‘Plain English’ and other words are added to the instruction. So be careful of what you ‘hear’- it may not be what you need.
I agree,

The golfing machine was the birth of golfing language today because it defined many terms that had loosely been used and has given teachers a reference point. Communication allows the teachers the opportunity to discuss without the chaos of having to both discuss and then define the words used. It gives them an opportunity to make the undescribable to what was before describable to their students about what happens in the golf stroke.

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Old 03-09-2008, 10:26 AM
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I agree,

The golfing machine was the birth of golfing language today because it defined many terms that had loosely been used and has given teachers a reference point. Communication allows the teachers the opportunity to discuss without the chaos of having to both discuss and then define the words used. It gives them an opportunity to make the undescribable to what was before describable to their students about what happens in the golf stroke.
yes- Kelley's vanacular is key to learning but equallly important is the focus of instruction by the instructor- you may not need its path.
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:59 PM
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There is a difference between a teacher and an educator. The information in Mr. Kelley's book allows the instructor to educate the student.
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