winter training

[O.B.Left]

Hi Lynn

Being a Canadian golf nut, I spend the long winter months working on my game at the indoor golf domes up here. The one I frequent is about 85 yards in length so its perfect for short game work.

Although I have enjoyed a tremendous improvement in my game thanks to LBG I'm thinking of taking it back to basics with a regimen of some kind. I dont care if I stay in basic or acquired motion for four months. I dont care if I only use one arm, stand on one foot etc, etc.

What would you recommend to me for a "basic training" regimen.

Thanks
O.B.

PS I have become stellar at hitting and swinging chips and pitches with just my right arm on the club. But my left arm alone is totally uneducated. Is it advisable to swing with just the left arm given that it would require a start up other that RFT? The left arm pull down is not advisable either I believe.

[drewitgolf]

Just steal the Judge's copy of Alignment Golf until your copy comes in. Just don't get caught. As you know, he is a Big Guy. Just ask Paul Smith.

[Burner]

Just steal the Judge's copy of Alignment Golf until your copy comes in. Just don't get caught. As you know, he is a Big Guy. Just ask Paul Smith.

Smithy's kids are big guys by comparison to him! And, his ego is also small but his generosity and good nature are huge.

[O.B.Left]

Smithy's kids are big guys by comparison to him! And, his ego is also small but his generosity and good nature are huge.

Thanks guys. Sure wish I could have joined you at the Homecoming. The judge, being the good big brother he is brought me home a copy of the DVD. Im sure he'd send his regards to all, if he wasnt out golfing right now. Oh, and yes, I agree, stealing his copy of Alignment Golf would be about as easy as stealing some food off his plate when he is dieting.

See you down the fairway

OB

[Andy R]

...The left arm pull down is not advisable either I believe.

I haven't heard that one before, OB. Is there a thread where that was discussed? I've been "swinging" my left arm this year to great effect (which in a way, is "pulling" the left arm on the downswing).

I'm just curious to see if my interpretation of "pulling" vs "swinging" the left arm maybe faulty, or my swing/procedure is faulty.

[O.B.Left]

I haven't heard that one before, OB. Is there a thread where that was discussed? I've been "swinging" my left arm this year to great effect (which in a way, is "pulling" the left arm on the downswing).

I'm just curious to see if my interpretation of "pulling" vs "swinging" the left arm maybe faulty, or my swing/procedure is faulty.

Know what you mean Andy. I spent the first 30 years or so doing just that, pulling my left arm down. Ill leave it to Lynn and Drew and others to discuss but I'm now of the opinion that the left arm is basically dead, except for the left wrist describing the appropriate hinge action. All of which is only possible with extensor action. If you dont have any, seek it out and a down plane move of the right shoulder while you are at it.

OB

[drewitgolf]

I haven't heard that one before, OB. Is there a thread where that was discussed? I've been "swinging" my left arm this year to great effect (which in a way, is "pulling" the left arm on the downswing).

I'm just curious to see if my interpretation of "pulling" vs "swinging" the left arm maybe faulty, or my swing/procedure is faulty.

After the Pivot has Loaded PP#4 (6-B-4-0, 7-12), the Thrust of the On Plane (2-H) Downstroke Right Shoulder Turn will Blast the Inert Left Arm (sounds better than dead IMO) into Release (2-M-4) once it has reached its maximum speed (10-20-C, 6-M-1). But the Blast off is not a vicious action, it just requires the Pivot to lead the Arms with a gentle turn to avoid Over Loading and Over Acceleration (6-D-2) and Running out of Right Arm. The Fourth Accumulator is RAdius Power, not Velocity Power (6-B-20) The Left Arm should not Drive itself unless using Pull Minor Basic Stroke (10-3-D). So if the Pivot doesn't Load #4 and the left Arm Swings independent of the Pivot, you have missed the Train.

However, the difference between Feel and Real are like the difference between ice hockey and tennis. Using a Hand Control Pivot (5-0) can provide the missing link, where the Pivot respondes to the Hands. You may have a PP#4 and just not realize it, because your Hands are so well Educated or you are trying to Educate them.

Still alot of meat on this bone.

[drewitgolf]

Smithy's kids are big guys by comparison to him! And, his ego is also small but his generosity and good nature are huge.

A true gentlemen, couldn't agree more .

[Andy R]

To quote bts from this thread

For your regular (Swinging) swing, the Right side is supposed not to disrupt , but reinforce , that Motion and Action.

Like you OB, my golf season is over until the spring but I think extensor action and using my right forearm to guide my left arm should be my winter project.

Back on topic, although I seem to be impervious to extensor action drills... I'd love to have some stuff to work on over the winter that can help move that left arm swing toward right forearm, shoulder control.

I certainly don't have any trouble with right forearm control while hitting, it's just that swinging is a flail, and intimately tied to the left side/pivot.

[O.B.Left]

After the Pivot has Loaded PP#4 (6-B-4-0, 7-12), the Thrust of the On Plane (2-H) Downstroke Right Shoulder Turn will Blast the Inert Left Arm (sounds better than dead IMO) into Release (2-M-4) once it has reached its maximum speed (10-20-C, 6-M-1). But the Blast off is not a vicious action, it just requires the Pivot to lead the Arms with a gentle turn to avoid Over Loading and Over Acceleration (6-D-2) and Running out of Right Arm. The Fourth Accumulator is RAdius Power, not Velocity Power (6-B-20) The Left Arm should not Drive itself unless using Pull Minor Basic Stroke (10-3-D). So if the Pivot doesn't Load #4 and the left Arm Swings independent of the Pivot, you have missed the Train.

However, the difference between Feel and Real are like the difference between ice hockey and tennis. Using a Hand Control Pivot (5-0) can provide the missing link, where the Pivot respondes to the Hands. You may have a PP#4 and just not realize it, because your Hands are so well Educated or you are trying to Educate them.

Still alot of meat on this bone.

I'm saving this post to my TGM file. A world class post from a world class teacher. Thanks Drew.

So much to think about here, concise though it is.

" A gentle turn" can save the novice experimenting with "the on plane right shoulder" much time and grief.

The single word "train" is a distillation of an immense and perhaps somewhat controversial concept.

"Feel and real" can explain why some of the greats, Sam Snead for instance felt like they did pull their left arms down in a "ring the bell" manner.

Great, great stuff