Cut shot

[airair]

or not a cut shot - that's the question.

Does it need to be vertical hinging or can a cut shot also be done with angled hinging? Does it even have to be a cut shot? Maybe it is good enough to let it be a normal reguired motion pitch shot?



I find vertical hinging difficult. Maybe angled hinging gets the job done to get the ball high enough with a SW/LW, although it will roll a little more?

By the way - is it the bounce of the SW or the leading edge that hits the ground in these types of shots? Or does that depend on what kind of shot you want to do? (In what way - how does this work?)

[Daryl]

The Angled Hinging will produce an action indistinguishable form the 2-C-2 Cut Shot except for the tendency to hop to the right per 2-E.

When experimenting with Vertical Hinging try a 10-2-D Grip.

10-2-D STRONG DOUBLE ACTION T/V/A Now the Right Wrist is Vertical and the Left Wrist is Turned to the top of the Clubshaft so that the Left Wristcocking motion will be on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend. The #3 Pressure Point and the left thumb are also on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend. Double Action – same as 10-2-C.

Very compatible with the Cut Shot procedures. Any Left Wrist Bend at Impact Fix should be maintained throughout the Stroke.

This Grip Type features maximum Wristcocking action and strong support for both Acceleration and Impact loads. The palm of the Right Hand moves toward Impact exactly like a paddle-wheel rotating On-Plane – no separate Rolling Motion until after Impact. See 10-10-C.

[airair]

If you feel the urge - be my guest to put this in laymen's terms...

[BerntR]

I guess you're talking about a flop shot, or a lob here, luftluft.

Lots of hands motion. Pull through and pull left. Aim for a finish wher the right hand is under the left. It really isn't that hard.

To get a precise flop or semi flop it is imperative to have control of the effective loft at impact. That means, you need to know exactly where you want to have your hands when the club face meets the ball.

[airair]

Takk,takk.
What I really mean is - is it possible to do these short, but high enough shots to get over a bunker etc and avoid the vertical hinging? Is angled hinging good enough for this type of shot? I'm trying to find a shot that is not too difficult and still gets the job done. And there is still the question about if it is the bounce or the leading edge of a SW that does the job.

[Daryl]

The "Cut Shot" is indispensable for anyone who misses the Green on the High Side (innercityteacher). Who in their right mind would ever do such a thing (innercityteacher).

The "Cut Shot" is any stroke that uses Vertical Hinging. It has a higher than normal trajectory and exceptional backspin for stopping power.

Vertical Hinging is the Clubface Laying Back Only through Impact and the Impact Point on the Ball is the same as the separation point. In other words, the ball went along with the clubface - no loss of compress which means that distance control can be calculated and learned.

The "Lob" is a special application "Cut Shot". It's a category of "Cut Shot" because it also uses Vertical Hinging. But, it loses compression ( a lot) because the Impact and Separation points are not the same. Unpredictable. I call it the "Poor Mans" Cut Shot. I use the term "Poor" because it's like a "poorly executed" Cut Shot (see innercityteacher). You need to Bend the Left Wrist. Remember when Phil Mickelson demonstrated a shot that landed behind him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=3Psl...eature=related

[Daryl]

Takk,takk.
What I really mean is - is it possible to do these short, but high enough shots to get over a bunker etc and avoid the vertical hinging? Is angled hinging good enough for this type of shot? I'm trying to find a shot that is not too difficult and still gets the job done. And there is still the question about if it is the bounce or the leading edge of a SW that does the job.

1..Yes, Angle Hinging and even Horizontal Hinging is ok.
2..The Ball leaves the Clubface before the Club touches the ground (except bunkers). So what's the bounce for?

The question shouldn't be one of your ability because you can learn any of these shots. An important question is "how much can I allow the Ball to roll after landing?". Ball Control - TGM.

[airair]

I think I understood everything you said. Thanks for the effort. As you see from my reply to Bernt's answer, I'm hoping to avoid the vertical hinging and keep it on a more manageable level for me. I see you beat me to it, but what about the bounce/leading edge question? Has this been answered before since no one wishes to say anything (more) about it?

[Daryl]

I think I understood everything you said. Thanks for the effort. As you see from my reply to Bernt's answer, I'm hoping to avoid the vertical hinging and keep it on a more manageable level for me.

Vertical Hinging is relatively easy (simplified) if you adopt the 10-2-D grip. You don't score with a 5 iron.

[airair]

You are right that I never have had a hole in one on a 160 yards par 3, but that day may still come...!? By the way how's your flipping working out? U r not flipping out?