make lag even?

[HungryBear]

It is most noticeable with the long clubs. I have uneven lag pressure. The hands could move faster but the lag pressure becomes tremendous through impact. Where in the motion should I look? Earlier release?, Longer arc?, more effort earlier?, longer stroke?
This is kind of backwards. More lag pressure than wanted not the normal problem of running out of lag. How do I get “evenness” THROUGH the release interval?

The Bear

[Daryl]

Are you moving your hands? Well, it sounds like something is moving faster than the Handle. Has it been a Problem?

[HungryBear]

Are you moving your hands? Well, it sounds like something is moving faster than the Handle. Has it been a Problem?

Yes. I have my right wrist at full bend, for me that is only about 45 deg- physical limit- but a light club (shaft only) moves through faster so it is clubhead dead weaight feel . Even with CF the pressure really increases. I see the point, getting ahead someplace but how to locate that?? The shame of it is that It may be someplace as a habit used to prevent loss of lag that has come back to bite???

Then again- As U say- Move the handle- That puts me back to bad pivot- maybe even traction?

The Bear

[BerntR]

I don't think you can have too much lag pressure going through impact. But if it isn't matched with a decent overtaking rate of the club, the sweetpot will move way up the club shaft and you will get a greater portion of the impact shock through your hands. And even more so with the longer sticks who has much lighter club heads than the wedges.

It sounds to me like you're not releasing the club well enough. Not enough clubhead spead / hands speed ratio.

[O.B.Left]

Its an interesting question.

Can one have too much Lag Pressure? Didnt Ben Doyle say something like "having too much Lag Pressure is like having too much love"?

What are the symptoms Bear? Late release? Overshooting the target can I suppose be considered a "too much lag pressure" deal.......you know like blasting a putt 10' long.

[HungryBear]

Its an interesting question.


What are the symptoms Bear? Late release? Overshooting the target can I suppose be considered a "too much lag pressure" deal.......you know like blasting a putt 10' long.

It happens at release. Only with a driver or longer woods. The feel is that the club is so heavy it stops my hands. If I slow everything down to create a smoother heavy motion I have no club head speed. I crank it up and I get this convulsive lag pressure near impact and a late release action which makes squareing the clubface difficult.

The Bear

[BerntR]

Please reread my post bear,

What I said about the clubhead speed vs handspeed is 100% relevant in your case.

[cometgolfer]

Hungrybear,

Sounds like you're able to bring in a lot of lag into impact and have the ability to handle it with the shorter clubs. I think many players will incorporate a snap or late release with the shorter clubs and automatically think they can can apply the same to the longer clubs (Driver for example and me for example). I know that Ben thinks there's no such thing as too much "lag", but for a few percent of the population there is.

I'd suggest you try more of a sweep release with the Driver and any club that you feel like you are "fighting" to release properly. My guess it's a feel vs real thing. Trying to carry a bunch of lag into impact with longer clubs is no-bueno unless you're able to deal with it. I bet you're sweep release looks like a proper snap release with the Driver.

CG

[petter7]

Sounds like you may have too much tightness in the hands, arms, shoulders.

Lag pressure is fine as long as it doesn't cause you to tighten up in these areas.
Lag is just the clubhead laggin behind the handle. With the driver or FW clubs you
don't need a lot of lag as the club approaches impact. Lighten up pressure in your
grip, arms and shoulders and see if that can lessen the lag pressure later in the
downswing.

[O.B.Left]

It happens at release. Only with a driver or longer woods. The feel is that the club is so heavy it stops my hands. If I slow everything down to create a smoother heavy motion I have no club head speed. I crank it up and I get this convulsive lag pressure near impact and a late release action which makes squareing the clubface difficult.

The Bear

The thing that confuses me is that the feeling you describe of the hands slowing down......would normally be associated with a loss of lag pressure. Is there any way that you are mistaking the feel of "Throwaway" for Lag Pressure?

Just a wild guess. My apologies if Im way off the mark.

But it is common for a person who encounters an open face geometry at impact to (subconsciously) start to steer the clubhead path to the left and at the same time throw the clubhead at the ball. An effort to start the ball further left to give it more room to fade and to square the face. Two wrongs , making for a compensated swing and a ruination of the ideal impact geometry as outlined in 2-C-0.

Its interesting to me that even armed with knowledge of Homers ideal impact geometry .......I am still subject to this sort of thing. Perhaps we all hold on to this "seems as if" false logic somewhere deep within the recesses of our golfing minds? Homer himself noted that he didnt Steer dandelions. From which you could deduce that even he, the man who defined Steering , was subject to it's false logic when confronted with a golf ball. ( I always like the way Lynn says "confronted by the ball", "in the presence of the ball" , "the ball as tyrant", etc)

When Im hitting unintentional fades that are starting to lose distance...."muffins"......I have to stop myself and give myself a 2-C-0 lesson. Arc of Approach, Inside/Out Impact for a straight line base line, Horizontal Hinging. Its THE cure for a plane line bent to the left and throwaway as a method of closing the clubface. Homer called this: "Cut shot therapy." In its most heightened state it can bring out the dreaded , shank. Forgive me for speaking its name in this house.

And hence as Lynn so eloquently notes in his Finish Swivel movie......the only line in the entire 12-3-0 mission critical MECHANICAL CHECKLIST FOR ALL STROKES which is capitalized, bolded and italicized is Section 6. number 22: From Top: DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP. Note the extra emphasis on the "Roll". Overtaking must happen. In the ideal manner its via a Flat and Rolling Left Wrist. Horizontal Hinging, inside out impact..... its a lesson I need to keep giving myself, probably always will. Add a little lag pressure to this geometry and golf becomes an easy game again.