#3 power accumulator
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08-03-2011, 04:48 PM
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#3 power accumulator
#3 Power Accumulator
Not really understand this for sure, but what is this really? The roll of left arm/hand/club from p4 to p7, or is it the angle between left arm and clubshaft (which I find the same as #2 PA in practical terms)?
It's a "power" contributor (accumulator) yes, but any other benefit/consequence of mainly relying and making the most out of this in a swing?
And how?
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08-05-2011, 01:19 AM
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It's a combination of the roll and the angle. It works like a gear. Small hand motion + rotation gives long club head travel.
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08-07-2011, 10:22 PM
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check your left hand grip
Originally Posted by BerntR
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It's a combination of the roll and the angle. It works like a gear. Small hand motion + rotation gives long club head travel.
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IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A MOSTLY FINGER GRIP UNDER THE HEEL OF YOUR LEFT HAND, ALA HOGAN, THE POWER ACCUMULATOR # 3 WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVE AND YOUR machINE WILL BE MUCH LESS EFFECTIVE.  rock on!
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08-07-2011, 10:59 PM
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while we are in zone 3 hands
Originally Posted by innercityteacher
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IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A MOSTLY FINGER GRIP UNDER THE HEEL OF YOUR LEFT HAND, ALA HOGAN, THE POWER ACCUMULATOR # 3 WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVE AND YOUR machINE WILL BE MUCH LESS EFFECTIVE. rock on!
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You must keep a flat left wrist and bent right wrist THROUGH EVERY TYPE OF IMPACT. LISTEN, NOT AT STANDARD ADDRESS BUT AT IMPACT OR, IMPACT FIX.
YOUR ARMS WILL TRANSFER AND MULTIPLY THE DRIVE OF YOUR SLOW MOVING HIPS AND YOU MUST GET YOUR BACK HIP OUT OF THE WAY OF YOUR BACK SHOULDER SO THAT YOUR HANDS CAN PRECISELY HIT THE. SNAT OUT OT THE BALL 69 TIMES ON SUNDAY MORNINGS AND OTHER DAYS. 
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08-07-2011, 11:34 PM
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I agree that the PA #3 is very important. Come to think of it, Phil Michelson's Hinge & Hold is very much PA#3 based.
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08-08-2011, 12:09 AM
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Sequenced Release
Originally Posted by brianid
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#3 Power Accumulator
Not really understand this for sure, but what is this really? The roll of left arm/hand/club from p4 to p7, or is it the angle between left arm and clubshaft (which I find the same as #2 PA in practical terms)?
It's a "power" contributor (accumulator) yes, but any other benefit/consequence of mainly relying and making the most out of this in a swing?
And how?
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The #3 Power Accumulator is formed by placing the Clubshaft under the heel of the Left Hand with the Left Wrist in a Level condition (upper left forearm and first knuckle of left hand forefinger in-line). In this condition, Left Hand Turn and Roll produces Rotational Power.
When the Left Wrist is Cocked beyond Level, the Swing Radius is shortened. Its return to Level -- and finally, Uncocked -- creates Velocity Power, totally independent of Rotational Power.
When Left Wristcock Power is employed, the Residual Velocity (of the Uncocking Left Wrist) is Transferred into Impact by the Level Left Wrist Roll. Hence, the designation of #3 as Transfer Power.

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08-08-2011, 08:55 AM
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what he said
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08-12-2011, 03:03 AM
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Accuracy
Of all the PAs, I would think this is the one that contributes best in terms of accuracy... How correct/wrong am I? I'm referring to the #3PA angle I guess, not the roll itself. By that angle I mean the degree of angle/bent between shaft and left arm. What do you exactly call that in tgm terms?
The more the left arm and shaft is angled, the greater the clubhead travel and the greater accuracy will be because of slower rate of clubface closure (all other things being equal of course), right?
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11-23-2011, 10:52 PM
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Thank you for all the replies, including berntr's reply in the advanced forum. Your replies made my golf swing. I revamped it, with the main thing that all other bow to being the maximum PA#3 angle.
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11-23-2011, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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The #3 Power Accumulator is formed by placing the Clubshaft under the heel of the Left Hand with the Left Wrist in a Level condition (upper left forearm and first knuckle of left hand forefinger in-line). In this condition, Left Hand Turn and Roll produces Rotational Power.
When the Left Wrist is Cocked beyond Level, the Swing Radius is shortened. Its return to Level -- and finally, Uncocked -- creates Velocity Power, totally independent of Rotational Power.
When Left Wristcock Power is employed, the Residual Velocity (of the Uncocking Left Wrist) is Transferred into Impact by the Level Left Wrist Roll. Hence, the designation of #3 as Transfer Power.
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Hello Mr. Yoda,
Re the acute PA#3 angle, you mentioned the more acute it is, the more power is lessened because of more clubhead travel to release the clubhead. Is it possible to instead focus on this, I mean maximize the clubhead travel and turn it to your advantage?
My "compensation" is this. I release right from the top of the swing. Sweep release. But my rlease just focuses on the release of PA#3 and PA#4, with everything else done to preserve the PA#3 angle as much as possible. I release PA#4 by firing the hips aggressively to start the DS from top and then aggressive turn of shoulders and arms. I release PA#3 with an independent and intentional supination of left forearm/wrist. The everything else are flat and level wrist at impact fix, pitch elbow, weak grip, bent right wrist/PP1, flat lies, low hands, butt of grip under the heel of palm, early elbow plane, and long thumb.
I don't feel a power drain on this. I achieve and ENSURE lag, greater clubhead travel translates to more momentum I think, so faster clubhead speed at impact, and best of all, tremendous accuracy. I never thought supination as fast as I can won't make the ball hook. Slight pulls, yes, but no hooks. And in a 56 degree wedge, I added 20 yards. Supination, as said by Hogan, in deed result to cleaner strikes as well, so more consistent sweet spot strikes, with the delofting of face resulting to lower shots/anti-wind shots, hence longer balls.
Anything you think is/are amiss in the above?
Sincerely.
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