| Hennybogan |
07-30-2008 11:49 PM |
curves
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike O
(Post 54685)
#21 06-18-2008, 09:00 AM
Hennybogan
LBG Pro Contributor Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 154
Hogan vs. Tiger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathew
Unfortunately Darruis, YOU ARE WRONG.
Ok lets just go along with these assumptions just for now even though they are heavily weighted towards your arguement.
You don't just divide the driving distance (yards) by the fairway with the half of the fairways width(yards) and expect to find anything useful. All you have found is the difference between a fifteenth of their driving distance - you could of just subtracted their driving distances together and divided by 15 and you would of come up with the same answer....an answer which isn't much use for anyone. It doesn't say much about your maths skills or those of GPStyles who seems to think your akin to Albert Einstein.
The correct differences are these.... I've omitted the sums because you won't understand them anyhow...
Woods hitting 300 yards onto a 30 yard fairway has 5.73197 degrees margin for error.
Hogan hitting 250 yards onto a 30 yard fairway has 6.87963 degrees margin for error.
So hogan at 80% FIR having to be 83.4% less accurate than Woods would only hit the fairway 66% of the time at 300 yards.
So where you plucked this number from I do not know - perhaps you clicked your heels together three times.
The pure maths is pointless to the debate and anyhow the maths becomes more in Tigers favour when you increase the fairway from the super tight hypothetical width you set. I could think of plenty of arguements that when added up make the maths arguement sound silly. It would be like a game of Jenga but its your arguement falling after each one of these blocks (variables you have not accounted for) and you couldn't even set the game properly up to begin with because you suck at Maths.
My feeling is that Wood's golf stroke is better than Hogans... You just wanted to try and own me - You tried and you failed... Try harder next time.
HENNY's Answer
Matthew,
I don't dispute your math. Longer shots on the same angle off line miss the target by more distance. Simple right? Watch the Hogan vs. Snead Shell match at Houston CC. Balls are not just catching the fairway. Hogan is curving the ball so it stays in the center of the fairway as the hole doglegs. "Fit to fairway like hand to glove." This where math gets lost. If the ball is not deflected from the target line, the distance does not factor.
Mike O's Questions:
Henny or anyone else,
I'd like to hear more about working the ball - Both Ways - in regards to course management. How many of the PGA tour pros work the ball both ways - as a particular hole requires? What are some of the common situations or tips for when to work the ball, etc?
Also, Here's my quiz question: When would you NOT want a ball curving in the same direction as the dogleg - "Fit to fairway like hand to glove"?
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Mike O,
Sorry about the delay. There might be a situation with a sloping fairway or something like that.
Most pros would like to think that they curve it both ways at will, but few of them have the control to consistantly pull off the shots. Basically, they play their standard shot and curve it less when they want to "work it the other way."
Many pros do work the ball with or against the wind with mid irons. They often change the trajectory.
My advice would be to play the shape you are most comfortable with and adjust your aim. Personally, I like to draw the ball, but I do have a standard cut tee shot when there are trees too close on the right.
Early time tomorrow, off to bed. |
