Originally Posted by sasquatch_mn (Post 72439)

Im really struggling w/ this left arm right arm swing concept. Specifically for me, I think i understand the feeling of swinging w/ left arm. Left arm only drills and what that does for you pivot...Where it gets grey is right arms role then...specifically how the the pitch elbow and extensor action fit into this. Is extensor action another way of saying as you stated "right arm role of reinforcing"?. If right arm is passive how do you provide structure of pitch elbow and extensor action?

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 35988)

One cool thing to try may be to. . .

Just throw it down behind the ball and gradually inch the contact point closer and closer until you actuall strike the ball then the turf and see what happens.

I have been fortunate enough to see Preachapokechop demo this . . . it's cool. I think the vertical hammering should give you a feel of what the #2 pressure point should be sensing. I used to try to feel like I was just holding the left wrist flat and feel it via #2. That ain't it.

If you do that hammering thing and really focus on the #2 pressure point and NOT the CLUBHEAD . . . you feel it load . . . I have come to believe that the Flat Left Wrist is more about DYNAMIC PROPER MOTION than just holding the freakin' thing flat.

Again Homer said if you THROW OUT you will not BEND. And I don't think this leads to any kind of circle path either. Experiment with this hammering deal. Do it via the left triceps ala a Non-Automatic release. Then hammer vertically by trying to drag the heel of the hand down and let CF really throw it out. You can feel the Snap Release. It's just in a vertical plane.

I love this dealie. Probably not thing for Hitters but makes a lot of sense for the Swinger.

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 72475)

Great question. The Right Arm for a Swinger is Passive. That means that the Right Arm doesn't Accelerate in such a way that it would move either the Primary or Secondary Levers.

During Startdown and the Downstroke, the force placed on the Power Package can be considerable and can collapse its structure (flying Wedges). Extensor Action works by check-reining the Left Arm so the structural alignments remain undisturbed.

Here's how it works.

Make a fist with your Right hand. Extend your Right arm in front of you like you're throwing an uppercut punch (like the Tiger Wood fist pump). Your right elbow is bent and Pitched and the palm of your right fist is facing you.

Grasp your right fist with your left hand and straighten the Left Arm. Now, try to bend your left elbow but resist by not allowing your right elbow to bend any farther. You're using right Triceps Muscle and the force direction is below plane.

As you resist, your right arm is not accelerating and the Power Package becomes rigid enough for the structure to remain stable against Pivot forces. It only requires enough Right Triceps resisting force to maintain a rigid Power Package Structure.

Originally Posted by sasquatch_mn (Post 72641)

Ok I believe Im on the right track then as to what extensor action feels in my swing. Although I wish I know what my right arm is doing when theres a ball there??? As far as pitch elbow how does that element in swinging procedure occur? Is it then a biproduct of pivot and pulling from left? I was on the range and really forced my elbow almost to a point in front of the ball at impact. I got some solid strikes w/ wedge but w/ longer clubs didnt work so well. Just something that has contributed to darkening my journey in search of a reliable swing procedure.

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 72643)

Easy Peasy.

You don't need to force a Pitched Elbow. It occurs automatically if your Elbow doesn't move behind your Right Hip at the Top of the Swing. So, your Right Elbow at the Top of the Swing should appear to point downward somewhat. Your Right Elbow will point Downward at the Top of the Swing when you turn your hands to Plane during Startup. If you don't turn your hands, but keep the Left Wrist Vertical to the Ground, then your Right Elbow will end Up behind, or Pointing Behind your Right Hip at the Top of the Backstroke. So,,,Standard Wrist Action will Load the Secondary Lever and Single Wrist Action will Load the Primary Lever.


If you want to Hit the Ball solid with your driver, then use an AIMing Point 2 inches behind the Ball. Then your Pitched Right Elbow, will pass the Right Hip during the Downswing and your Release Point (Elbow Location at Release) will be somewhere in front of your Right Hip. For short clubs, the AIMing Point is a little ahead of the ball while for longer clubs it's behind the ball.

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 72654)

Am I aiming what, two inches behind the ball? The throw down of the vertical left wrist hinge. What are you aiming with?

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 72654)

I imagine the "correct" sensation, or a good sensation, or an effective use of the vertical left wrist in hitting to be something like this...RFT loads the wrist and then the golfer braces into the front foot and sort of glides until they pull with the left tricep and fire the vertical hinge down. It is like a slow, deliberate, ax blow to the base of a tree. A slow, heavy blow that you really step into. Almost like a person steps into a baseball swing.

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 72654)

What do you think? 'Shall I take up arms in opposition to the that little golf ball or shall I, in my mind, continue to suffer
the slings and arrows of ourageously bad technique?' :dontknow:

Patrick