What a great discussion here. I'm really enjoying it.

I really liked those pictures of the three iron and they reminded me of video.

Is this video where those pictures were taken from? It sure looks like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dG9hb3_blo

It's pretty clear watching this video that when impact is not perfect, the head twists like crazy.

Dollars to donuts that 3 iron shot was hit on the heel based on the rapid "closing" of the face just beyond impact.

Based on the description of the video, the 3 iron shot was right before the driver swings which begins at the 33 second mark.

Thoughts?

My pictures look just like the video. I'm sure I took the stills from it but they've been in my files so long and I can't find the video. I'll download the file. I also think that the 'toward the heel' strike observation has a lot of validity and that can be easily seen if you have the video and it would also account for the upper toe losing loft.

Those are some wicked off center hits. It's hard to say for sure whether the ball is glancing off the clubface or the clubface is glancing off the ball. I guess it's both.

additional analysis??
 

I would be interested in an analysis which included #2 release.
If #2 has the left wrist at level for impact/low point then the movement of #2 will have the clubhead going down at left shoulder "low point" but the true low point must be after this point- ie. at the point where the tangent to the actual arc equals the downward angle created by #2 release. AND what does this downward motion do? For angled hinging it may hold as normal to the left hand- because the hand is perpendicular to the plane but for horizontal hinging I think it will be parallel to the left hand. As a case study. Can you hit a FULL 64* wedge with horizontal hinging? What say You??


HB

PS. Saw video add where Bobby Clampett says tour pro bottoms at 4 in. beyond ball, 100 shooter bottoms 4 in before ball. each inch forward is 4 strokes off your handicap. That was easy!

HB

PS. Saw video add where Bobby Clampett says tour pro bottoms at 4 in. beyond ball, 100 shooter bottoms 4 in before ball. each inch forward is 4 strokes off your handicap. That was easy![/quote]


Based on my own experience, I would certainly agree.

Yea, that's a great question. Which is glancing off of which?

Sure looks like the club is losing the battle. :)