I got off topic a bit , wasnt talking about Rory necessarily there.

There's some guys who say the pros dont hit "shots" anymore but I dont see that. I see what you're talking about, JT. Maybe its not like the old days of persimmon but its still there.


JT do you see a weakness in his game? To my casual eye he looks like he has the complete game ........ and he's so young! Better driver than Tiger. How's his short game when he isnt hitting every freaking green?

Whew, man I tell you what, its really really good. Was able to watch him when I was on the range in Charlotte and it is the real deal. If he keeps swinging like this we may never get an up close look at the short game!!!

I've just been amazed through the time I've had out there at the different swings one player makes in a given round to hit certain shots, and the different systems from player to player. Tons of "underplane" drives for high draws , tons of "down and left" or over for low shots and short clubs. Drastically different ball positions, heads positions, pivots, grips, amounts of shaft lean, plane angles and shapes, etc.

Mike Austin stuff?
 

"Shut Face" stuff was said by Bobby Jones to be the toughest competition he faced. Mike Austin guys, at least some of them, push the Left Arm straight back and "Under" and "in" so that the face is "Shut." Is this what we are looking at?

IC T

I guess Im referring more to roll or the roll prep........seems to shut early in anticipation of little to no roll through the strike, where the pivot motors through to finish.

Could it be Grip Rotation you see, say for a shorter iron played back of low point but with an Angled hold off?

Sure, maybe.... I don't know. Seeing it and defining it are two different things I guess. I think there are alot of things going on in a golf swing. Tons of variables, and unmachine-like human bodies. I like to pick out something and then go and compare tons of guys.....do they do it? More or less? How do they get away with not doing it?, etc...... the more I learn the more I realize I don't know much and that NOBODY has or had it all totally figured out

Maybe nobody will either.

Rory seems like the real deal. Man I love his balance. With him and a bunch of others, it'd seem that the next generation has arrived.

Thanks for sharing, JTillery.

Its nice to have others still interested in learning and questioning.

Enjoyed it OB

They said he changed some things after the Masters
 

Here's a Master's tape with a good close-up of the hands. He is not shut face in this video.

You can turn the analysis off, if you wish.

http://youtu.be/yk9K8S1Pugk

Nice comparison to Kaymer

http://youtu.be/nYwqSWrQt-k

IC T

Yeah, never with the driver. Terrible camera angle too. He's got to have open face and swing shallow and to the right to hit that big ole high draw with the driver. Short shot and low balls.
Thanks ICT,enjoyed it. Im gonna call it a night. :salut: