That would be cuzin around here.

For those that don't get Golf Digest and want to see the article: http://www.golfdigest.com/stackandtilt. This link worked last I checked. In the article they advocate for a centered and stationary head until after impact because it makes it easier to have a low point in front of the ball and gives the player one less variable in their swing. I have no problem with this, but what I do not understand is under this philosophy of the less variables the better--why would you want someone to straighten their posture when coming into impact? To me, this is an extra variable that is necessary because the right fore-arm is not set on-plane. Therefore, the player needs to straighten up to avoid hitting several inches behind the ball.

Please correct me if I am misrepresenting the swing.

Matt

The Current Hype.. whats it about?
 

My personal 2 cents about this swing..

As we all know feel is execution, and the simplicity of feel is the simplicity of execution. As 5-0 is also explaining similar concept in TGM.

I think , MAC design this swing to simplify the feel aspect. the rotated shoulder turn steep by moving the hip to be ON PLANE on the top, keep arm going back without lifting in a specific angle to arrive at elbow plane-Automatically. Visually your perception of the ball position stays the same( which is great). Release the pelvis and the ball goes off. Thus once thus it is learn properly.. its basically pretty much a low maintenance swing.. bio mechanically sound swing, as we probably spend less time to practice tracing the forearm all the time, how much to fan, how much to lift.look look look..

Why is that important? my guess, is not merely ball striking.. but more importantly SHOT MAKING. We want to play golf , reproduce Reliability and sound mechanic under pressure( by feel), produce the trajectories we want. We want to score and really PLAY golf.

But , i haven't really learn the swing, only know roughly how it works .so my synopsis is pretty much worthless.. nobody is willing to impart anything further than what we see here :p so. will be great someone write more 10 position or something.. but this is what i think all this "Hype" about One Plane swing.. MORAD is really about.

Cheers !

matt you are absolutely correct.you can still stay centered and transfer weight to the right.imagine a baseball player trying to hit a 90 mph fastball with a his weight on his left foot.not going to have much power in his swing is he.you guys need to just keep working on a hand controlled pivot and forget the rest.listen to the true tgm guys and we all know who they are

Centered Head And the Weight Shift
 

Andy Plummer and Mike Bennett advocate a centered Head. For those who follow Homer Kelley and his recommended Stationary Head, that is is a good thing (1-L-#1/#2, 2-0, 2-G [7th edition] and the Head-marked photos in 9-1 and 9-2). Unfortunately (in my opinion), in their pursuit of Centered Arc and a spine that stays vertical ("over the ball"), they apparently abandon the Backstroke Weight shift that has for centuries been the mainstay of conventional Pivot instruction (7-12 and 10-12-A).

Also, their recommended target-wise tilt of the upper body (Plummer, page 130) and steep Backstroke Left Shoulder Turn (it "turns down, pointing almost toward the Ball") ignores the fact that the Inclined Plane is inclined. Remember, it is a 'through the waist' Plane of Rotation, and in order for the Right Shoulder to be On Plane at the Top, the Right Shoulder Backstroke Turn will ideally move as directly, i.e., Flat , toward the Plane as possible. Except with the shortest Clubs -- and even then it is either only relative or restricted to the low-power Minor Basic Strokes -- a steep shoulder Turn is not compatible with this geometric objective.

The good news is that you can have the Head Pivot Center (with its Centered Arc) and the Weight Shift (with its additional Power). For proof, check out frames 3 & 4 of the V.J. Singh Swing Sequence in the same Golf Digest edition (May 2007). Note that his Hips and Shoulder Turns are "stacked" and that there is no 'pie,' i.e., an angle of the back from the vertical. Alternatively, click on this on-line view of V.J.'s swing:

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...ijaysingh.html

In The Golfing Machine, Homer Kelley coined the term Hula Hula Flexibility to describe this ability to Shift the Weight while maintaining a Centered, Stationary Head (7-14).

Baddeley's Swing
 

Aside from GD not publishing a complete down the line swing. Is there anything you don't like about how Badd's club moves. Not how his body looks but what the club does?

The Hula Hula is a concept that has eluded many swing gurus. Many see two legs that need to be loading and unloaded. Sway right, sway left- Ballard for example.

Hula Hula is not a mere Hip Slide as some think. It is the independent hip action from the shoulders under a centered head. The heart of the pivot.

Homer's Greatest Hits are many.

I would not ever have a new student not have the right grip. Mabey it will come out soon. A grip and how it supports write up would be cool. I belive alot of golfer would benifit from that.

A visual demo of the Hula Hula concept would make for great video. I cannot connect the dots between keeping a stationary head & a vertical spine position and the role of the hips.

A Compensated Stroke Model
 

Assuming the spine is anchored at the top, e.g., with a Stationary Head, then it will remain vertical only if there is Zero Hip/Weight Shift. Otherwise, the lower spine moves (tilts) in the direction of the Shift.

Attempting to produce such a tilt -- in either direction -- without a Hip/Weight Shift can only produce a Sway (4th Snare / 3-F-7-D) and, if the Waist Bend or Knee Bend -- Left or Right or both -- is exaggerated, potentially a Bob (3rd Snare / 3-F-7-C). With the proper Clubhead Orbit thus disrupted, there must be a compensation, ideally one that returns the Head to its original position.

It is this 'Sway/Bob and Compensate' action that forms the basis of the Plummer-Bennett model as defined and demonstrated in Golf Digest, June 2007, The New Tour Swing. http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...tacktilt8.html

As discussed and illustrated on page 130, the head and left shoulder tilt down toward the ball in the backstroke, the "spine tilts toward the target" and the left foot is loaded. [There is no mention of just where this move puts the all-important right shoulder.] Then, in the downstroke, the player "launches off the left foot" in a "standing stretch" to produce a "springing action through the ball." The downstroke image used is one of crushing a soda can under the left foot to thrust the hips upward through impact (page 123).

So, according to the Golf Digest article, the Plummer-Bennett dictum is to "tilt to your left on the backswing and stand up through impact" (page 130). Well, having tilted to the left, I agree that it is important that the player stand up through impact. But, these extreme moves are totally unnecessary if the player simply executes a correct Pivot (7-12 and 10-12-A) with its centered Head, Free Turn with Weight Shifts and On Plane Right Shoulder (10-13-D).

Interestingly, I do not see these extremes in the unposed Aaron Baddeley Driver Stroke Sequence on the title page. Also, his perfectly-centered address position on page 120 (compare to Bennett's address in the 'stack and tilt setup'). Therefore, it is always possible that the article's demonstrations and descriptions are exaggerations intended as a 'means to an end' and not the intended end itself. For example, Bennett's obviously forward-of-middle head position at address, the top and in the start down. Also, Plummer's 'tilt and stretch' Master Moves. Then again, if that were the case, the "New Tour Swing" would not be so "radical" after all. :think:

If teachers want to teach the 'Tilt left, load-up the left foot and push off' model, that's fine by me. And if players want to use it, that's cool, too. However, readers should be advised that it does not reflect the ideal of an Uncompensated Stroke as defined in The Golfing Machine, and any representation to the contrary is inaccurate.