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HungryBear 06-06-2012 11:08 PM

More on snap release.
 
I post 2 vids' below for contrast;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzLzaiZKP-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woRsF...eature=related

I am adding 2 quotes from the archives that I think fit the discussion (the answers by yoda not the questions);

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/post25437-1.html

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/post25591-1.html

Interesting?

BOTH SNAP RELEASE??? I think so.

HB

1. high hands- lower hands - does this effect the wedges?

2. both horizontal hinge?, Both Sequenced release? (gona get some discussion here)

3. Difference in roll, one early alignment one late roll through impact. One roll only aout 50* the other more than 90* ?

4. pivot differences? Balance?

O.B.Left 06-07-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 92101)

BOTH SNAP RELEASE??? I think so.

Yes both Auto and Non Auto Snap Release , which have different Release Points if you look at the photos. Non Auto needing a little more time to execute theoretically.

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1. high hands- lower hands - does this effect the wedges?

It effects the Plane Angle of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge at Impact and therefore the Angle of Attack , impact dynamics 3 dimensionally , amount of plane shift from a TSP etc etc . Also if the hands get so low that they are below an attainable Elbow Plane you are now on a hands plane and have broken your Right Forearm Flying Wedge . If you come into impact on the same Hands Plane you have forfeited the structure of the Right Forearm Wedge........This can be done by design , for effect as a machine adjustment. V.J. Trolio for instance has a flop shot he employs from an "as low as you can go" hands plane . It takes out a lot of the Down in the Angle of Attack and makes clean contact way easier. YOu lay the face wide open so the back of the blade is laying on the ground and brush the grass with a long shallow brushing. With a flop shot a loss in structure can be a good thing , especially for really short shots where less resistance to impact deceleration is a form of an intentional loss of compression.

Sorry if Im off topic .

HungryBear 06-07-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 92115)
Yes both Auto and Non Auto Snap Release , which have different Release Points if you look at the photos. Non Auto needing a little more time to execute theoretically..



I see both automatic, One is delivery line throw, the second is wrist throw.


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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 92115)
It effects the Plane Angle of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge at Impact and therefore the Angle of Attack , impact dynamics 3 dimensionally , amount of plane shift from a TSP etc etc . Also if the hands get so low that they are below an attainable Elbow Plane you are now on a hands plane and have broken your Right Forearm Flying Wedge . If you come into impact on the same Hands Plane you have forfeited the structure of the Right Forearm Wedge........This can be done by design , for effect as a machine adjustment. V.J. Trolio for instance has a flop shot he employs from an "as low as you can go" hands plane . It takes out a lot of the Down in the Angle of Attack and makes clean contact way easier. YOu lay the face wide open so the back of the blade is laying on the ground and brush the grass with a long shallow brushing. With a flop shot a loss in structure can be a good thing , especially for really short shots where less resistance to impact deceleration is a form of an intentional loss of compression. .




The high hands are small pulley, low hands larger pully making the release point "appear" (is only because of larger pully) earlier.
Problem with higher hands is the wrist geometry is destroyed (first of the archive quotes attached) ie. the left and right both bend and "flip around" like a fresh caught trout.
The rffw goes to the elbow and should fly into impact like a flying wing.


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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 92115)
Sorry if Im off topic .

There is lots of good stuff in contrasting these guys.


HB

svsvincenzo 02-03-2013 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe (Post 91955)
That's too easy - Woods 2012 4 mos ago - at :17 when the butt of his hand just reaches the right leg, he has retained full wristcock for a late snap. His earlier swing versions were even better. Is he "great" enough?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLCs8sdj56I

Thanks MJ!

So its what's happening rather than the intent when classifying things in a golf swing TGM way?

You think Hogan really snapped release as an INTENT or did he full sweep released as an INTENT but result is a snap? If the latter, what do you call this in TGM?


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