Daryl's drill with the bucket indicates that straightening the right arm (if correctly aligned) can hinge the left arm (from the shoulder hinge point), the handle goes from parall to the plane line to perpendicular to the plane line.

red dots
 

Daryl, One point not clear to me. Where do U position the red dpts and what orientation should they maintain?

HB

I have a feeling the video will light it up for all of us. Really excited to see it!!!

And with the Top of the Bucket remaining "Level" to the ground.

One Dot on the outside of the Left Hand and the other on the inside of the Bent Right Wrist.

During Release, you'll see that the Left Wrist Rolls, its Dot goes from facing the Target Line to Facing the Target. You'll see that the Dot on the Inside of the Right Wrist Faces the Sky at Release and Still Faces the Sky at Impact, On-Plane Right Forearm Wedge.

The Left Wrist Rolls, the Right Wrist Doesn't.

The Handle Swivels from the Bucket. So the Bucket Drill removes the Release Swivel Action from the drill so that "Turn and Roll" while the Right Forearm seeks its Angle of Approach to Low-Point can be observed in isolation.

I can see where its going
 

As header states........."I can see where this is going"but Im blind to words.....but I know the wait will be worthwhile&B

Thanks Daryl.
I agree because I can see.

I would like to extend the disuussion of release on the plane to include a piece on "sequential" release.

The interpretation held by Most, is that #2 is released with the left hand flat to the plane then teh left hand is swivled into horizontal hinging and #3 (formed by the residual #2) is "rolled" through impact. I BELIEVE THIS TO BE AN IMPROPER INTERPRETATION of HK "sequential release".

I have mentioned this before and had some PM discussion -part Of which I include below.

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Originally Posted by HungryBear
A thought on roll;

If the roll to the vertical left-horizontal hinge alignment is early the total roll is only about 30-35 degrees. If the left is held on plane until #2 is released the left roll is almost 90 degrees and must be accomplished in a very short time and distance. this alone is problematic for a repeatable swing.

HB

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Not quite- We are not communicating - BUT - we are in pm so please let us get this on the same page because I see it as important.

Experiment: First with the left hand only - Flat left, clubface.
Take your flat-vertical- (cocked if U like, that will not change the clubface geometry at this point)
Go to address- backswing flat left to top- back of hand points across plane line 90 deg and at horizon.
TURN left hand to plane. 4-c-2. hand/clubface is on plane.
No we will come down 2 ways- Both will use 4-c-3 roll.
First -I will call this the BAD way - slow motion swing by sliding your hand flat down the plane, at about waist hight start to uncock the left (that is #2 ) if it was BUT keep your flat hand on plane. now just before impact, look at your hand on plane- You must roll 4-c-3 to vertical for impact. NOTE; the roll 4-c-3 must be almost 90 degrees and it occurs in a very short portion of the swing.
Second- I will call this GOOD way - slow motion swing by sliding the left hand down the plane- But - allow/cause the flat left to roll - 4-c-3 so that it is vertical at hip level. 2 points here. the 4-c-3 roll required was only about 30-35 degrees (on the plaqne to vertical) AND YOU are now in the horizontal hinge with a verticalo club face.




This can let the shaft stay on plane and you can use all the cf U can find- The clubface remans unfer the control of FLAT LEFT HAND.

Any speed, any power, any length, the second experiment repeats. over and over.

I can do experiments eith the right that compliment the left and OBEY HK rules.

This is important.

HK would be proud!

HB
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As I believe the sequenced release is realy a "trigonometric" or proportional rate function and is completely on plane- with NO CORNERS or swivels dividing #2 from #3 release

Your thoughts. ?

HB

ps. Only 4 posts to go to catch O.B. ,

HB

I started a new thread "Sequential Release".

Turning hips?
 

Won't turning my hips back and through simply throw me out over the Base Line of the Plane? Marching in place is simply lifting my heels- will try that but I could not keep my balance very well
when Lynn showed me that. :think: RFT then belly button turn since I can't feel my artificial hip? or is it just planting the left heel? :eh:

ICT

It's no wonder many TGMers think the hands are moving downward at impact what with all the emphasis on DOWN DOWN DOWN - all the way to China! But the hand path bottoms out well before impact with the club head still lagging behind

You've got the club head correct - REALLY.

However, no "capisce" on the hands. Go to pg 193, fig 10-19-A and look at the hand path for Hitting and Drive Loading - it's curving upward. It's the same for Swinging and any loading or release type. If the hands are moving downward at impact, the club head will have beaten the hands to the ball from the line of sight perspective, and you will have complete lag loss and compression-less impact.