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airair 09-16-2010 08:38 AM

A challenge
 
If you should try to explain how to do a "normal" half swing (required motion) with all TGM knowledge you have - how would you explain it in the simplest terms in max one minute (without speeking very fast) to somebody who hasn't heard of TGM and its terminology?



Edited later:
To make it easier - the student doesn't have to be without knowledge of golf - only unfamilar to TGM

BerntR 09-16-2010 11:37 AM

The three basic essentials:
  1. A stationary head
  2. Balance
  3. Rhythm

The Three Basic Imperatives:
  1. A "Flat" Left Wrist
  2. A Clubhead Lag Pressure Point
  3. A straight Plane Line

These basics can get you far.

airair 09-16-2010 11:50 AM

You are right of course, but I would like to "hear" what your one minute speech would sound like. Aren't you using some of the terminology that needs explaining?

innercityteacher 09-16-2010 12:08 PM

If you look at the clubshaft of the club...
 
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Originally Posted by airair (Post 75935)
If you should try to explain how to do a "normal" half swing (required motion) with all TGM knowledge you have - how would you explain it in the simplest terms in max one minute (without speeking very fast) to somebody who hasn't heard of TGM and its terminology?

and hold the handle in the palm of your right hand, and stretch your right arm straight out in front of you, you are looking at the plane of the golf club. Now, bend at the hips until the club rests on the ground. That is the position with the most promise for the back swing and downswing of any club in your hand! All of golf is based on the most effective and consistent ways to stay on plane for power and precision.

I reserve the right to have a better idea later! :eyes:


YBGF

12 piece bucket 09-16-2010 12:33 PM

Hammer the ground right here and let the ball get in the way.

airair 09-16-2010 12:39 PM

That must be the world's quickest golf lesson.

12 piece bucket 09-16-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by airair (Post 75945)
You didn't need more than 5 seconds?

That's right at the end of the day . . . you are hittin' a nail or chopping wood . . . ON AN INCLINED PLANE . . . that's what makes it counter intuitive. So I'd say it would be best to introduce this via motions people "get" outside of golf.

Process . . . .

1. Hammer the ground left hand only in a vertical plane . . . isolate the motion of #2 (wrist cock/uncock) . . . left arm flying wedge . . . rhythm . . . ON A VERTICAL PLANE that makes more sense with regards to their "instincts".

2. Hammer an imaginary nail "chest high opposite their left shoulder" right hand only . . . hammering on a HORIZONTAL PLANE . . . baseball/tennis . . . . right forearm flying wedge

3. Two handed Horizontal Plane hammering . . . how wedges work together to move the "hammer" on plane maintaining alignments . . . also showing that "you'd never raise your arms way up here if you were gonna hammer on this horizontal plane right?" . . . wedges and Primary and Secondary Lever Assemblies linked to body/Pivot . . . efficient motion . . .

4. Two handed hammering on a vertical plane . . . Right Forearm take away on vertical planes cocks and uncocks wrist . . . hammer the ground HARD . . . full lever extension and rhythm would NEVER be disrupted on the vertical plane . . . "why would do that on a plane that is more like a roof???"

5. Inclined plane Left hand only hammering with line in bunker/ground to establish throwing the club out to the proper low point IN FRONT OF THIS HERE LINE

6. Inclined plane hammering right hand only with line and no ball

7. Two handed inclined plane hammering no ball with line

8. Introduce ball . . . "dude . . .forget about the ball . . . just pretend its the line."

airair 09-16-2010 01:30 PM

It's not easy to put this in plain language - maybe impossible?

airair 09-16-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 75943)
and hold the handle in the palm of your right hand, and stretch your right arm straight out in front of you, you are looking at the plane of the golf club. Now, bend at the hips until the club rests on the ground. That is the position with the most promise for the back swing and downswing of any club in your hand! All of golf is based on the most effective and consistent ways to stay on plane for power and precision.

I reserve the right to have a better idea later! :eyes:


YBGF

not bad ....

airair 09-16-2010 02:19 PM

My own try.

With most of the weight on your left foot and with your ok grip, make a half swing with the club back and then down to the ball and thru, keeping your left wrist flat and your right wrist bent.


It's not easy - I didn't find place for the inclined plane.

or

type of hinging
drive/drag loading
lag
flying wedges
pressure points
power packages, primary lever assembly and other stuff I really don't know what is ..

innercityteacher 09-17-2010 12:15 PM

Nice intellectual exercise, Air!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 75950)
My own try.

With most of the weight on your left foot and with your ok grip, make a half swing with the club back and then down to the ball and thru, keeping your left wrist flat and your right wrist bent.


It's not easy - I didn't find place for the inclined plane.

or

type of hinging
drive/drag loading
lag
flying wedges
pressure points
power packages, primary lever assembly and other stuff I really don't know what is ..

Thanks, Bucket! I love that video about hammering. Came in 2nd place in a small tournament with it (20 people)! Love it!


YBGF

airair 09-17-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 75988)
Thanks, Bucket! I love that video about hammering.


YBGF

What video?

innercityteacher 09-17-2010 10:40 PM

Air, now that you are a SENIOR member of this Forum...
 
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Originally Posted by airair (Post 75994)
What video?

Will you please, please look at every FREE video here and on You Tube? Then you can ask hundreds more questions which OB, Daryl, Yoda's Luke, KevCarter, JerryG, me and hundreds more golfers will answer so we can insult each other and annoy Daryl and Bucket. (I have never known OB, Yoda, or Yoda's Luke to get cross.) (Bucket, either, though Mike O really beats the crap out of him.) It'll be snowing next week in the MidWest and those boys get cranky when they can't go to the indoor range for hours!

We all need the distraction of your questions! You have actually allowed me to rest a bit from my lighthearted banter. :laughing9

I have a warning though. Don't ever accuse Daryl of making a vapid post.

A) He's bright.
B) He's really good with cool graphics and he will insult you in different colors.
C) Sometimes, he's funny.
D) He knows lots of TGM stuff like OB, Yoda's Luke ,Bernt R, Bam-Bam.....
E) And he can really be a grouchy guy, sometimes. He'll carry a grudge for like uhmm, 36 hours!

Other than that, watch the free vids, buddy! You rock!

YBGF

airair 09-17-2010 10:56 PM

I would actually prefer to be a junior, because TGM stuff still is rather unknown to me, I'm afraid. And the other seniors who know each other a long time have devoloped their own style in their relationship to each other, which I don't always understand. But that's not the end of the world perhaps...

innercityteacher 09-17-2010 11:06 PM

Air, don't worry. Sometimes, this is very much like one of ...
 
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Originally Posted by airair (Post 76006)
I would actually prefer to be a junior, because TGM stuff still is rather unknown to, I'm afraid. And the other seniors that know each other a long time have devoloped their own style in their relationship to each other, which I don't always understand.

my elem. school classes, sometimes 3rd grade and sometimes 8th grade. Sometimes, people just vent and rant. Daryl goes to his study and uses his computer software. Everyone benefits as long as we play nice! :)

BTW Daryl, we are playing straight-up. No quarter asked or given unless we play with JerryG and KevCarter who do play for quarters! :)

Yoda can hold the money. We can see if we can get a discount on the monthly DVD's!!!

YBGF


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