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moorejr12 10-24-2007 10:43 AM

Input on Book "The Final Missing Piece"
 
Mr. Lynn,
Moorejr from Huntsville, Alabama. I would like to know if you have had a chance to review the book by V.J. Trolio "The Final Missing Piece of Ben Hogan's Secret Puzzle? I would like to add this to my library as a reference. Thanks for speaking with me.

moorejr

Yoda 10-24-2007 11:18 AM

Delayed Read
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moorejr12 (Post 46180)

Mr. Lynn,
Moorejr from Huntsville, Alabama. I would like to know if you have had a chance to review the book by V.J. Trolio "The Final Missing Piece of Ben Hogan's Secret Puzzle? I would like to add this to my library as a reference.

I have not yet read the book, moorerj, but I am looking forward to doing so. V.J. is a wonderful teacher and player, and I have no doubt that anything he writes will justify the time invested.

:read:

moorejr12 10-24-2007 11:36 AM

Thank you Mr. Lynn, I am the "rocket scientist" from Huntsville, I still plan to schedule a session with you.

Yoda 10-24-2007 04:28 PM

Job One For Rocket Scientists: Get Off the Pad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moorejr12 (Post 46184)

Thank you Mr. Lynn, I am the "rocket scientist" from Huntsville, I still plan to schedule a session with you.

Our schedules conflicted this summer, but the season's winding down, and Atlanta is just a 'hop, skip and a jump' away. So...

Give me a call, let's put it on the books, and c'mon over!

:3gears:

joe curtis 10-25-2007 02:46 PM

vj book
 
i have the book and am interested to see what lynn has to say about the secret

golfbulldog 10-25-2007 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe curtis (Post 46199)
i have the book and am interested to see what lynn has to say about the secret

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2249 post 10

Now this is NOT Yodas response to the book but it is an interesting quote from Homer regarding Hogan's hip action (I understand that VJ feels that it is the hip action that is the key? is that correct ?) - Yoda quotes Homer's description of Hogan's hip action as....

"Ben Hogan's 'Flip' Of the Hips

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tongzilla

Note that this does not mean you should violently spin your hips to the finish, in fact, quite the opposite. I personally like to associate this with the feeling of tapping a flywheel, because you only need a light 'push' and it keeps spinning forever (well...almost). You don't try to turn the flywheel by guiding it with your hands.

Homer Kelley would have agreed, Leo. He came to understand 'Instant Acceleration' Hip Action and Drag Loading (10-19-C) by studying the swing of Ben Hogan. In describing Hogan's action, he used the phrase "'flip' of the hips."

This lightning quick movement Loaded the Lag and set up the Centrifugal Downstoke Sequence. But, beyond that little "flip," Homer maintained that nothing more was required of the Body other than that it continue to lead the Power Package Down Plane."

moorejr12 10-26-2007 12:22 PM

I obtained the paperback copy of the book and completed reading last night. The stills from video show the point that is identified as the missing piece. I have in the past worked on this movement but did not know when in the sequence of my swing to implement, in a manner that would provide optimal results. I have reviewed text and photos from several books on Hogan especially the ones showing the rearward view. Also the photo of Hogan beside Lynn gives a good illustration of the point that is being made (My Opinion). Thank you for your input.

moorejr

Yoda 10-27-2007 11:16 PM

From the Archives / Hogan's Journey...And Ours
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
Yoda, How about a loaded question to kick off this board!!! Can you describe Hogans swing? His swing is probably the most studied golfswing in the world. I would appreciate your take on it.

Bagger

A description of Ben Hogan's Swing? In one word: Powerful. In another word: Accurate. In an all-inclusive third: Efficient. But...

It wasn't always that way.

At first long and loose, his Total Motion became a Darwinian case study in the Evolution of a Golf Stroke. By the end of his career, all unnecessary frills had been stripped away, and unless something had to move, it didn't. Ben Hogan sought Golfing Perfection, and in that pursuit there was only utility.

Form followed Function. Or was jettisoned. His Hands, which early on traveled to an End Top behind his Head, ultimately found their Top at Right Shoulder High and On Plane. His Lower Body, formerly dominated by extremely active Feet and Knees, became a stable Platform from which to mount the powerful assault of his Arms and Upper Body upon the Ball.

His Grip had evolved from a Turned Left Wrist and its Double Wristcock Action (Cocked and Bent) to a Vertical Left Wrist and a Single Action (Wristcock Only). In short, without the benefit of today's Swing coaches, psychologists and trainers, Ben Hogan had realized his dream: Driven by a burning desire and working only with his own God-given gifts, he had become a Golfing Machine. And in so doing, he lit the lamps along Golf's Pathway for future generations to follow.

That torch has now been passed, and the mission of Lynn Blake Golf is to continue that pursuit of Golfing Perfection. Most of all, we are dedicated to helping you find its application to your Game. Armed with our own burning desire and the practical, working knowledge of Homer Kelley's magnificent work The Golfing Machine, we boldly set forth on this uncharted journey.

Bon Voyage!

joe curtis 10-30-2007 05:44 PM

still want to know your thoughts on the missing link

lagster 10-30-2007 10:23 PM

Hogan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 46233)
A description of Ben Hogan's Swing? In one word: Powerful. In another word: Accurate. In an all-inclusive third: Efficient. But...

It wasn't always that way.

At first long and loose, his Total Motion became a Darwinian case study in the Evolution of a Golf Stroke. By the end of his career, all unnecessary frills had been stripped away. Unless something had to move, it didn't. Ben Hogan sought Golfing Perfection, and in that pursuit there was only utility.

Form followed Function. Or was jettisoned. His Hands, which early on traveled to an End Top behind his Head, ultimately found their Top at Right Shoulder High and On Plane. His Lower Body, formerly dominated by extremely active Feet and Knees, became a stable Platform from which to mount the powerful assault of his Arms and Upper Body upon the Ball.

His Grip had evolved from a Turned Left Wrist and its Double Wristcock Action (Cock and Bend) to a Vertical Left Wrist and a Single Action (Wristcock Only). In short, without the benefit of today's Swing coaches, psychologists and trainers, Ben Hogan had realized his dream: Driven by a burning desire and working only with his own God-given gifts, he had become a Golfing Machine. And in so doing, he lit the lamps along Golf's Pathway for future generations to follow.

That torch has now been passed, and the mission of Lynn Blake Golf is to continue the pursuit of Golfing Perfection. Most of all, we are dedicated to helping you find its application to your Game. Armed with our own burning desire and the practical, working knowledge of Homer Kelley's magnificent work The Golfing Machine, we boldly set forth on this uncharted journey.

Bon Voyage!

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I know a fellow that played the tour with Mr. Hogan. He said the sound of Hogan hitting was quite unique. He could tell it was Hogan, just by hearing the sound of the strike.

He said when Hogan would occasionally strike a shot he did not like, he would take a big, long draw on that cigarette. I don't think he had to do that very often.

He said Mr. Hogan could putt quite well cross-handed, but he would only do it in practice rounds. He could not bring himself to putt that way in tournaments.

Mr. Hogan would not talk to many people, but he said Mr. Hogan woud talk to some people that he liked. My friend, evidently, was one of these people.


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