Motionless right shoulder
 

My 6th Edition says that in the putt minor basic stroke that the entire body is motionless, "especially the right shoulder". I just wanted to clarify, would that mean the right shoulder does not move at all, or does this only mean that the right shoulder does not move on its own accord, only by something else moving in the stroke (ie: the right arm bending and straightening)? Thanks guys

In the Alignment Golf putting DVD, Mr. Trolio and Mr. Blake make a HUGE point that we should NEVER mix shoulder turn and PA #1. If the right arm (elbow) powers the stroke, the right shoulder stays still. Great stuff, especially for a "Hitters" feel.

Kevin

Thanks Kev
 

Great, I had a feeling this was the case. Anyone simply use ACC #1 to putt? Why does anyone feel that this is a superior procedure, and who uses punch elbow, and who uses push elbow? Thanks again!:golf:

I use #1 with the long putter, just like Yoda explains it in the DVD. I couldn't make a decent stroke with the long putter until I tried his method. I have been teaching some guys to putt using only #1 with the short putter with great results as well. Very simple...

Kevin

Re: Motionless right shoulder...
 

...does anyone remember a guy by the name of NICKLAUS ???:happy3:

You have the Alignment Golf DVD? There is some good stuff about the push basic stroke in there. A toyed with the push basic for a year or so. I love the simplicity of it, I was also experimenting with a hitting procedure for my full strokes. I struggled with distance control, especially from the 10 ft range. Then I learned to preposition the right shoulder for the desired precision destination ...namely the follow through (also the finish for putts) Yikes! If I got the shoulder gauged correctly the hole started to look a lot bigger. At the end of the day I am a swinger, so I use #4 to power my stroke, but I think the push basic stroke is scary accurate. Two things to focus on:

1. Make sure the right forearm is pointed at the plane line
2. Make sure your right shoulder allows you as much right arm as you need to power the stroke.

Push basic with the right forearm parallel to the plane line is great for swift downhill putts because of the automatic vertical hinge it produces. As I have said before I use ALL THREE hinge actions on the greens. I reserve the horizontal hinge for uber-long St. Andrews type putts, or if I have fringe to go through. The intent of selection is a big piece of the mental game in my opinion. Results are secondary...execution is primary!

another question
 

I think that my preferred procedure is to use a punch right elbow and angled hinging, just easier for me to reproduce. My question is, does the right elbow fan on the backstroke, as in a total motion stroke, or is it just a right arm punch with no conscious fanning? Once again, you are all much smarter than I am and are such a huge reason behind my recent successes on the golf course. Thank you

To Fan Or Not To Fan . . . That Is the Question
 

Glad you're experiencing your recent successes, laangels. Stay with us . . . there's more to come!

There are three Major Basic Strokes: Punch, Pitch and Push. Punch and Pitch demand Right Forearm/Elbow Fanning -- the Hands move around the Right Elbow -- and that Action begins immediately.

Only with Push is there no fanning. Instead, the Right Elbow is positioned in an 'up and out' location at Address, and the Hands are held between the Right Elbow and the Ball throughout the Stroke.

P-U-S-H.

A ponderous Action that produces very little distance in relation to the applied Thrust.

:salut:

thank you
 

Perfect, thank you Yoda this really caused me some trouble the past few days. I guess my confusion came because I had thought that because in total motion the pivot fans the hitters right forearm (using punch elbow), and because the putting stroke can allow for no pivot, then putting with a punch elbow did not require the forearm to fan. Honest mistake, back to the practice green. Thank you again and enjoy watchin the Open! Ps-big fan of Mr Gay, gotta love his game

With all due respect to many fine teachers, you can't learn this stuff in this depth ANYWHERE else!!!

Thanks Yoda,
Kevin