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x-man 02-25-2011 04:42 AM

Divots !
 
just noticed yesterday my divots are left of target. practice swing are all square. i think im coming OTT or loosing right arm because ball is going left to right hence my thinking it OTT any suggestions

KevCarter 02-25-2011 10:23 AM

When I think OTT, the first thing I think is lack of Hula-Hula... That is where I would start...

Kevin

airair 02-25-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 82616)
When I think OTT, the first thing I think is lack of Hula-Hula... That is where I would start...

Kevin

It would be interesting to hear in what way the Hula-Hula can help in getting rid of OTT. Can you elaborate on this?

:eusa pray:

KevCarter 02-25-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by airair (Post 82617)
It would be interesting to hear in what way the Hula-Hula can help in getting rid of OTT. Can you elaborate on this?

:eusa pray:

My opinion is many times OTT is cased by improper sequencing of the swing. If the hands or shoulders start the club down, it's very easy to get OTT. Hogan taught starting from the ground up. Others teach starting with the left knee moving forward first. I believe Homer Kelley starts with the hips, Hula-Hula, and that takes care of the feet and knees. Hula-Hula, getting your left hip forward a couple of inches over your left foot, allows you to start the shoulders and club down "On Plane" rather than OTT.

Kevin

airair 02-25-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 82618)
My opinion is many times OTT is cased by improper sequencing of the swing. If the hands or shoulders start the club down, it's very easy to get OTT. Hogan taught starting from the ground up. Others teach starting with the left knee moving forward first. I believe Homer Kelley starts with the hips, Hula-Hula, and that takes care of the feet and knees. Hula-Hula, getting your left hip forward a couple of inches over your left foot, allows you to start the shoulders and club down "On Plane" rather than OTT.

Kevin

Thanks. Interesting. :hello:

KevCarter 02-25-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by airair (Post 82619)
Thanks. Interesting. :hello:

Always look at my signature when I post... :) :salut:

airair 02-25-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 82620)
Always look at my signature when I post... :) :salut:

I know what you mean - this time. I don't think you are more wrong than the rest of us. On the contrary. :naughty:

O.B.Left 02-25-2011 11:20 AM

Could be an optical or intellectual illusion too.....Steering. Everybody does it on occasion.

Remember the Delivery Line of the Clubhead is in fact , Inside Out...... till Low Point. So the other way to fix your problem is to keep swinging inside out until your divots straighten out. Only the Plane Line is a Straight Line the Clubhead orbit is circular, ideally.

If the clubhead moves like that , so must the Hands. Both on the Downstroke and in Startup........dont take your Hands straight back from the ball on a line, thats Steering too. A very common form of it too.

Startdown Waggles (with Axis Tilt as Kev says) are the best drill for this, if you're looking for one. See also 1-L whatever where Homer talks about the Thrust being cross line until Both Arms Straight and then throw an imaginary ball at your Aiming Point with your Right Arm to feel this inside out thrust that is associated with a Tracing of the Straight line Plane Line. Counter intuitive or what? But right at the heart or Homer's message .......the geometry of golf is not what it first appears to be. Figure it out naturally , blindly as a kid or later in life but then sadly most likely via intellect. The darn circle lays on an inclined plane , making things quite obtuse.

x-man 02-25-2011 11:37 AM

guys thank yu so so much for the input. i did alt of work this morning at home and heres the final result from 2hours work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ-kH2lQas4

i was working on coming more from the inside rather than casting over which i could feel. im holding lag much much better and im happy with this mornings work


Thoughts?

innercityteacher 02-25-2011 11:45 AM

Straight DOWN
 
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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 82618)
My opinion is many times OTT is cased by improper sequencing of the swing. If the hands or shoulders start the club down, it's very easy to get OTT. Hogan taught starting from the ground up. Others teach starting with the left knee moving forward first. I believe Homer Kelley starts with the hips, Hula-Hula, and that takes care of the feet and knees. Hula-Hula, getting your left hip forward a couple of inches over your left foot, allows you to start the shoulders and club down "On Plane" rather than OTT.

Kevin

Kevin, when I do my HULA well, and keep my FLW with a stiff PP # 2 (thanks Daryl), My Hit is soooo DOWN that I worry about my toes! It is sooo different than a Swingers Start-up Swivel! The curtain rods really helped with that feeling (thanks Yoda and Paul -Golf-Guru)!


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