Shoulder Turn for Hitters
 

Okay, since we hitters only go to "top" with hands right shoulder height is our shoulder turn "full?"

In other words, is our shoulder turn 90* with our left shoulder under the chin or does it stop short of that?

I think so. It's just that your arms won't 'lift' nearly as much as they would with a swinging procedure.




3JACK

When I get the left shoulder under my chin, the results seem to be better, that's for sure!

Might be due to having the shoulder plane steeper. So you may *feel* like you have the shoulder under the chin and turning more, but the reality is that your shoulder plane was probably too flat on the backswing before and now it's steeper which helps put you into other better mechanics.

Learn feel from mechanics, my friend. :thumright




3JACK

:thumright :thumright :thumright :thumright :thumright :thumright

Here in lies the problem of not being able to see Yoda or having a qualified machinist around...I have to look in the mirror, etc. On the course, it gets really hard to not go by feel!

Well, that's why you should try and purchase a camera. That way you can see your swing in reality, check out the mechanics, re-work some things if needed, then once the mechanics start to take place...'feel your way around' as to what it feels like when you do it right.





3JACK

3Jack,

do feel a steeper shoulder turn is more comaptible w/ hitting vs swinging? We have a nice thread in the swingers forum goin on about the steepness of the BS shoulder turn right now.

Im experimenting as we speak. Ive decide that a neutral turn is best, not quite as steep as S&T but not as flat as the McDonald drills.

I think it's compatible with either. If I had to choose one, I'd say more compatible with hitting. You're likely to be more upright in the backswing with the arm plane when swinging, flatter with hitting. So the steeper shoulder plane *could* help with getting 'neutral.'

Part of the problem is waist bend with golfers. You get a golfer who is 5'8" tall, using a 46.5" driver and then they wonder why they cannot get their shoulder turn steep enough on the downswing. Well, tough to get waist bend with a driver that long.






3JACK

Ive noticed as a drive load hitter that the further away I stand (which makes me bend over more) the easier it is to get the shaft on plane at address, and the better my ball striking.

Like you have mentioned before in your blog, most golfers, especially "late bloomers" are better suited to be hitters. I just find it easier to keep everything "right sided" Rt forearm on plane at address, Rt forearm takeaway, rt shoulder down plane, rt hand palm strike w/ #1PP, get rt shoulder to finish pointing at the target...