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HungryBear 07-29-2012 07:33 AM

CF in hitting.
 
Do U include any cf in your hitting procedure? if so, where, how, and how much?

hb

MizunoJoe 07-29-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 93186)
Do U include any cf in your hitting procedure? if so, where, how, and how much?

hb

There is no cf in pure Hitting. The pivot accumulator, #4, is not used. 4-barrel Hitting uses a right shoulder drive before firing the right triceps, and it can go as deep as you can without uncocking the left wrist before firing the right triceps. If the LW starts unlocking from cf and you fire the right triceps then you will kill the club head lag created by cf. It's theoretically possible to recreate the lag with the right triceps, but not likely, and you will end up pushing a dead shaft through impact.

Bumpy 07-29-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 93186)
Do U include any cf in your hitting procedure? if so, where, how, and how much?

hb

The left arm is always swinging.

Bumpy

MizunoJoe 07-29-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumpy (Post 93191)
Forgot who I was responding to, this is a test isn't it?

Any mass, connected to and rotating around an axis will have a CF. The only way to zero CF is to move the axis parallel to the path the mass would travel if not connected. --OR-- (for the sake of brevity)

The left arm is always swinging.

Bumpy

Left arm is moving, but not from pivot power, only from the right triceps. Check out the yellow book - Hitting accumulators are 1,2,3. No #4.

Bumpy 07-29-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe (Post 93193)
Left arm is moving, but not from pivot power, only from the right triceps. Check out the yellow book - Hitting accumulators are 1,2,3. No #4.

Hitting or Swinging is irrelevant, the left arm swings.


Back to your regularly scheduled program:

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 93186)
Do U include any cf in your hitting procedure? if so, where, how, and how much?
hb


HungryBear 07-29-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bumpy (Post 93194)
Hitting or Swinging is irrelevant, the left arm swings.


Back to your regularly scheduled program:

We have a piece of good ibformation. The left arm swings. with Zero #4 accumulator the arm swings- There is cf.

hb

MizunoJoe 07-29-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 93196)
We have a piece of good ibformation. The left arm swings. with Zero #4 accumulator the arm swings- There is cf.

hb

That's a piece of garbage, not good info. If the left arm swung in a pure Hiitting pattern, then Power Accumulator #4 would be included for a Hitting pattern, but it is not. The left arm is pushed out of the way by the right triceps, it doesn't swing. :naughty:

HungryBear 07-29-2012 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizunoJoe (Post 93198)
That's a piece of garbage, not good info. If the left arm swung in a pure Hiitting pattern, then Power Accumulator #4 would be included for a Hitting pattern, but it is not. The left arm is pushed out of the way by the right triceps, it doesn't swing. :naughty:

Swung is swung

Hb

BerntR 07-30-2012 02:43 AM

MizunoJoe,

There is only one requirement for CF to be present in a golf stroke. And that requirement is strictly geometrical. Any time the club head has a somewhat curved path (which is basically all the time from top to finish) there will be CF present.

Hitting or swinging doesn't make a difference.

CF is nothing more (and nothing less) than club head inertia's response to an inward pulling effort (the other CF, Centripetal Force). The swinger manipulates these CF's to harness & control the throw-out and thereby the release. The hitter relies less on CF manipulation and more on muscle force to release the club and square up the club face, but both CF's are still present, has to be negotiated and is a key enabler to an efficient stroke with a chain reaction like release.

innercityteacher 07-30-2012 11:33 AM

I agree.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bumpy (Post 93191)
Forgot who I was responding to, this is a test isn't it?

Any mass, connected to and rotating around an axis will have a CF. The only way to zero CF is to move the axis parallel to the path the mass would travel if not connected. --OR-- (for the sake of brevity)

The left arm is always swinging.

Bumpy

The "taking out of the slack" and shooting cross-line guarantees CF being present though for me at this point it is more an around CF and less of a down CF for swinging. The CF is present in the straight left arm having been stretched with Extensor Action.

http://youtu.be/c3C1__L5usM

http://youtu.be/1y2fH0ooCoQ


ICT


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