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Old 10-24-2007, 02:03 AM
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Left Wrist Actions -- Clubface Alignment At the Top
Originally Posted by ldeit View Post

My Questions:

Would the left wrist and clubface be laying on the plane angle at Top in Single Wrist Action as it does with Standard Wrist Action?

If not the same, how would 10-18-C-#1,2,3 Left Wrist and clubface alignments look different at the Top from Standard Wrist Action?
To of the three Single Wrist Action Variations -- Horizontal (10-18-C-#1) and Angled (10-18-C-#2) -- arrive at the Top On Plane.

In contrast, Single Vertical (10-18-C-#3), arrives at the Top -- typically on the Turning Shoulder Plane (10-6-D) -- with the Hands "under the Club." Here, the Left Wrist simply remains perpendicular (to the Horizontal Plane) throughout the Backstroke. In other words...

"Straight back, Straight through. Keep the clubface square (no turn or roll)."

Thus, for Pivot Strokes, Standard Action, Single/Horizontal Action and Single/Angled Action all arrive On Plane at the Top with the Clubface aligned parallel to the Inclined Plane, i.e., at approximately 50 degrees to the ground. With Single/Vertical Action, the Left Wrist remains perpendicular (90 degrees) to the ground - an Off Plane Loading motion -- and the Clubface is aligned likewise, i.e., 'Toe down'. During the Stroke, the player simply lifts and lowers his Arms as the Body Turn supplies the On Plane motion to the Arms and Hands.

As always, Vertical Hinge Action -- either through the Ball or away from it -- is a deliberate, mechanical manipulation of the Clubface. That is, a Counter-clockwise Motion on the Backstroke and a Clockwise Motion on the Downstroke. As such, it is the natural byproduct of neither Swinging (Horizontal Hinge Action) or Hitting (Angled Hinge Action). Unless deliberately employed for a specific purpose, it is, at bottom...

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Old 10-25-2007, 02:36 AM
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Lynn,

Thanks for the answer. Very concise and clear, as usual.

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Old 01-28-2008, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
To of the three Single Wrist Action Variations -- Horizontal (10-18-C-#1) and Angled (10-18-C-#2) -- arrive at the Top On Plane.

In contrast, Single Vertical (10-18-C-#3), arrives at the Top -- typically on the Turning Shoulder Plane (10-6-D) -- with the Hands "under the Club." Here, the Left Wrist simply remains perpendicular (to the Horizontal Plane) throughout the Backstroke. In other words...

"Straight back, Straight through. Keep the clubface square (no turn or roll)."

Thus, for Pivot Strokes, Standard Action, Single/Horizontal Action and Single/Angled Action all arrive On Plane at the Top with the Clubface aligned parallel to the Inclined Plane, i.e., at approximately 50 degrees to the ground. With Single/Vertical Action, the Left Wrist remains perpendicular (90 degrees) to the ground - an Off Plane Loading motion -- and the Clubface is aligned likewise, i.e., 'Toe down'. During the Stroke, the player simply lifts and lowers his Arms as the Body Turn supplies the On Plane motion to the Arms and Hands.

As always, Vertical Hinge Action -- either through the Ball or away from it -- is a deliberate, mechanical manipulation of the Clubface. That is, a Counter-clockwise Motion on the Backstroke and a Clockwise Motion on the Downstroke. As such, it is the natural byproduct of neither Swinging (Horizontal Hinge Action) or Hitting (Angled Hinge Action). Unless deliberately employed for a specific purpose, it is, at bottom...

Steering.

The First Snare (3-F-7-A).
So...

we have established that both 10-18-C #1 and 10-18-C #2 arrive at the Top On Plane.

The difference between 10-18-A and 10-18-C#1 at the Top is more a matter of how it got there rather than the actual alignments at the Top.

But since the motion of the wrists is different between 10-18-C #1 and 10-18-C #2, and yet they both arrive On Plane, then there must be something different in the rest of the body to make sure it's On Plane.
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Old 01-31-2008, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla View Post
So...

we have established that both 10-18-C #1 and 10-18-C #2 arrive at the Top On Plane.

The difference between 10-18-A and 10-18-C#1 at the Top is more a matter of how it got there rather than the actual alignments at the Top.

But since the motion of the wrists is different between 10-18-C #1 and 10-18-C #2, and yet they both arrive On Plane, then there must be something different in the rest of the body to make sure it's On Plane.
The Top Location is reached when the Hands are at Shoulder Height. The End Location is Higher but more important, it is farther around.

Please forgive my boldness. 10-18-C #1 and 10-18-C #2 arrive at Top, On Plane, with a Flat Left Wrist. The Left Hand, Clubface Alignment, and Clubshaft are Identical. The Right Hands are also identical for a Swinger and Hitter and if Both used 10-2-B Grip, then both will Angle Hinge. Please Reference the First Edition. This edition includes referencing Hands To Plane with Left Wrist Action and HK advises accordingly. I’m almost sure that he removed the “advice” comments from later editions because he wanted TGM to reflect a “Properties” of Golf Stroke and not a Dear Abby advice book.

The Left Wrist for Swingers using 10-18-C #1 will be Flat and Cocked. The Right Wrist will be Bent and Level. The Right Wrist for Swingers using 10-18-C #1 will be Bent and Level but the Right Wrist in 10-18-A will be Turned-Turned, Flat and Level. Swingers using 10-18-C #1 will Angle Hinge and Swingers using 10-18-A will Horizontal Hinge. Swingers using 10-18-C #1 should use 10-2-E, V/T/U [which will allow the Left Wrist to Cock on Plane (without Bending) and allow the use of Pitch 10-3-B] if they want to Horizontal Hinge.

10-18-A and 10-18-C #1 at Top are different. The Left Wrist in 10-18-A is Turned-Turned, Cocked and Bent and the Right Wrist is Turned-Turned, Level and Flat. At Top, The Right Palm in 10-18-A (if you open your fingers) is almost facing your head. At End, the Right Hand Alignment of 10-18-A is like 10-18-C #1 is at Top if 10-18-C #1 uses 10-2-E.

If you open your Right Palm at the End of 10-18-A, it will face front. If you open your Right Hand Palm at Top of 10-18-C#1 with 10-2-B it will face front. If you open your Right Palm at Top with 10-18-A with 10-2-B it will almost face your head.
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