#1 03-19-2008, 09:34 PM okie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 858 Thank You Thanks for passing that tidbit on to me. That is easier said than done, but it is something to work on. I have to admit that I "woes out" and go to the old shoulder move, using acc. # 4 on the shorties! okie View Public Profile Send a private message to okie Find all posts by okie