zero out Acc#3 in putting
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06-16-2010, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dlam
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Members, like to know how many of you zero out accumulator 3 by putting the club into the palm of the left hand along the lifeline when putting.
I was reading up Tiger's instructional book written years ago and he puts the putter into more the along the heel pad of the left wrist. I guess that would be partial zeroing out the angle.
Or do some prefer not consider this?
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I Zero out #3, and use a Flat Left Wrist, Bent Right Wrist, Turned Shoulder Plane with Extensor Action. I am very pleased with the Results.
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06-16-2010, 10:44 AM
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I put the top of the shaft inside my left hand, such that the forearm becomes a geometric extension of the shaft. It was the conclusion after extensive experimentation indoor the winter of '93. I manufactured a stroke and a grip that kept the face on target whether I was swinging or hitting with the putter. Have never looked back since. Unorthodox and very solid ball contact.
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06-16-2010, 11:28 AM
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Its always seemed interesting to me that the common putting grip has the #3 Accumulator zeroed out, despite the fact very, very few people understand why. Homer was a wonder.
I've read that Tiger's dad was always suggesting he get his hands a little higher. Something he did during the week of his first Masters win. Dont think it was a grip change though , just a hand position thing. Which does approach zeroing out #3. Also a great adjustment for super short chip shots for those who dont like to grip it in the life line for Chip Basic, 12-5-0.
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06-17-2010, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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Its always seemed interesting to me that the common putting grip has the #3 Accumulator zeroed out, despite the fact very, very few people understand why. Homer was a wonder.
I've read that Tiger's dad was always suggesting he get his hands a little higher. Something he did during the week of his first Masters win. Dont think it was a grip change though , just a hand position thing. Which does approach zeroing out #3. Also a great adjustment for super short chip shots for those who dont like to grip it in the life line for Chip Basic, 12-5-0.
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Do you remember the early days of Tiger ramming 10 foot putts like he was trying using back of the cup as a backboard? I think he did make some adjustments cause his speed and distance control is so much better now than those first few years on tour.
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06-17-2010, 06:15 AM
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If you have no need of a power accumulator why build it into the machine to get the job at hand done? Putting only needs a very small amount of power so 1 (not PA1) should be plenty 99% of the time.
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08-05-2010, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dlam
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Do you remember the early days of Tiger ramming 10 foot putts like he was trying using back of the cup as a backboard? I think he did make some adjustments cause his speed and distance control is so much better now than those first few years on tour.
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He thinks that line is to some extent subject to the vagaries of the greens surface but that speed is totally within his control. He kicks himself for getting the speed wrong. Of the two direction and speed , generally speaking its speed that most of us get wrong, it might be the more crucial of the two in fact.........its way easier to be five feet short than five feet wide. And so he prides himself on speed control these days. His line aint to bad either.
In regard to the way he putted when he first came out on tour.........of all of the things that impress me about that guys game , the way he became the best putter Id ever seen ........ after he came out on tour, ranks as #1. He sure wasnt that good at first. Most guys putted their best when they were juniors , Tiger picked his late 20's and early 30's. Its really kinda weird. Not saying he didnt putt well at times, like his first Masters, but he turned into a different animal later.
Anyone know who or what helped him to make this change? He always said his dad was his putting coach but....
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06-16-2010, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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I Zero out #3, and use a Flat Left Wrist, Bent Right Wrist, Turned Shoulder Plane with Extensor Action. I am very pleased with the Results.
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Is it Rotated as well?
Me I dont move my Shoulders much, just a little motion not any work, Im all Arms, normally these days. It took me thirty years to stop my legs from moving when I putted. I used to look down at them and think "WTF do those things think are doing?".
Now Im Zone 2 Putting. Thank you Yoda. Right Arm or Left. Not both. You could pull it back with the right , RFT and then Pull with the Left however. But you need to separate them I find.
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06-17-2010, 02:04 AM
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Great replies!
I am in favor of zero out acc #3 as much as I feel comfortable. wether it may be inline with my left forearm or slightly off a bit. It gives me a SBST kinda feeling.
I think I been doing it subconsciously but never realized it. I am trying to be aware of it and incorp as part of my routine.
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