Standard Hip Action vs. Delayed Hip Action

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Old 12-31-2011, 07:03 PM
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Bucket, my feeble attempt at your pattern. I cant really get my shoulders anywheres close to steep, for me this is steep.

The more I trusted driving the right shoulder down the plane the better I hit it. There definitely is no attempt to use a swinging action here. I did hit it rather well.

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Old 12-31-2011, 11:10 PM
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Well, today was hosel rocket day. So dang frustrating, can't recall ever hitting the ball so bad, so consistently. Not sure what I was doing wrong. After my session, it did occur to me one BIG thing Eddie had worked with me on the other day. Keeping the right elbow close to my body. Somehow, my genius self, I realized this after hitting 100 balls sitting in the car looking at the crap video of my hour on the range. Oh well, baby steps (and set backs) are the way it goes I suspect. Today was a bad day. Wanted to play tomorrow, but can't take this swing to the course. Another day at the range for me. Below is a video of one of my half way decent hits. Literally, hit about 5 good shots out of the 100 balls. The one positive (I think) thing, I was making some divots today. Never take a divot, but hoping to one day. A byproduct of a bad swing? Not sure, but it was interesting to beat up some turf. Just wish the balls had not been 10 feet off the ground and heading right. It was a bit embarrassing.


Anything obviously different here compared to before? Shank city.


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Old 12-31-2011, 11:17 PM
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Old 01-01-2012, 12:39 AM
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Do you have a face on from today?

It sure seems like the elbow is to far behind you. At this point in the swing the right elbow should be working down to your right hip and more in front.

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No front on video from today. The right elbow could very well be the issue. It was one of the focus points in the last lesson. Somehow, I forgot this today while hitting balls. Got about 5 other things I am changing. Lots of swing thoughts. Checking my grip before every swing due to finding out it has been closed until now. So much going on. But that is OK. I am willing to pay my dues. This game ain't easy. Wouldn't have it any other way.




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Old 01-01-2012, 01:21 AM
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Do you have a face on from today?

It sure seems like the elbow is to far behind you. At this point in the swing the right elbow should be working down to your right hip and more in front.

careful here....no pitch elbows in this pattern...you are correct the elbow is back...but the main culprit is the right shoulder...it needs to be working OUT....shoulders staying to closed...the need to TURN...DISCUS LAUNCH...

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Old 01-01-2012, 01:35 AM
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Yea, for him it will feel like its in front but it will not be.

Has to be punch, agree.

Did you have a chance to look at my video, curious to your thoughts?
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Dan the top of the backswing looked nice....I kind of drew some lines for you....your shoulders are staying too closed...you can see from the red line...note Palmer's shoulders are relatively square at this point...yours are pretty closed...this is keeping the clubhead/face from working OUT to the ball...note the direction the buttcap is looking...you need to get the shoulders turning and the buttcap starting to look back at you...note in the second pics how far back from the ball your clubhead is...it's not working down and out to the ball ...it's working underneath to the ball...that's where the shank is coming from...

So you need to feel like your left shoulder stays LOW and WORKS AROUND LOW BEHIND YOU...LEFT SHOULDER LOW AND AROUND...that will help get the clubhead to work out to the ball...also feel like buttcap is going to start looking back at you much earlier...remember this junk is happening FAST...so you may have to FEEL LIKE it is beginning to look back at you almost from the top as you start your downswing...



Note the arrows...left shoulder low and around right shoulder high and out....

a couple of things to experiment with...get a headcover or shoebox or something that you can't bust up to bad with a club or hurt yourself with...set it between your right foot and the ball...experiment with the placement but you are trying to put that thing in a place where if you come from "in and underneath" you'll crash the box...

also maybe try putting the ball waaaaay up in your stance I mean like outside your left toe and hit irons trying to hit pull cuts kind of...the way you are swinging from underneath you will have a tough time getting to that forward ball...film it and see if it changes the pictures....
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:38 AM
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Dan,

Don't run the video. Instead use this starting image as the basis for what I am about to ask you. Where would the club head (face) have to move from this point to hit the ball?
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:05 AM
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Thanks man. I see it plain as day now. Will be taking a box to the range in a bit. I know how to fix this. Yesterday was like a potty trained 2 year old pissing himself.




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