The Real Clubhead Lag!

[Golfie McG]

Guys,

I don't want anyone to feel bad they don't observe the same degree of bend that Bobby "demonstrates" here. You too can have it if you can find a camera with a 100th of a second shutter speed.

It would probably be detrimental to your game if you tried (with a better camera)

Golfie

[tongzilla]

The bend you see here is shutter speed issue. You would not see anywhere near this bend with high speed photography.



Golfie

Yes, some of that bend you see is due to low shutter speed. But not regarding the photo on the beginning of this thread. You can see the shaft very clearly. No blur. Convinced?

Example: similar shutter speeds...slightly blurry hands

Has anyone visited a ShaftLab equipped facility? If so has anyone recorded a driver swing that had a lagging clubshaft prior to impact and a clubhead speed greater than 110 mph? My local guy at the Golftown mega store says he has not seen one. Mind you they've only had the gear for 6 months.

Yup. If anything, the shaft is bending the other way.

[phimaynard]

Hi phimaynard,

How did you get the frame by frame? Screen shots?

The bend you see here is shutter speed issue. You would not see anywhere near this bend with high speed photography.

Golfie

Hi Golfie
You are true .
These are screen shots and the DEGREE of bent is shutter speed issue.
My purpose was about KEEPING the lag from top to impact and these photos, for me , seems to illustrate that Bobby is doing it pretty well.
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[Golfie McG]

Leo,

Your swing video shows that you are a big strong guy.

Please take your stiff (or better) shafted driver. Grip it in any fashion you like. Rest it against anything you like and produce an 8 inch deflection. This video would suggest a greater deflection than that if you wish to believe in it.

I believe that Bobby is Superman!



Golfie

[comdpa]

Compda,

Thank you for the by the book answer...

Golfie,

Can you please elaborate on this statement..."The shaft is bent so that it is toe up, is it not?"

[tongzilla]

Guys, if you think the shaft bending look by Bobby is a shutter speed issue, I suggest you try and film yourself with a moderate shutter speed camera (e.g. 1/1000) and see. The greater the blurriness the lower the shutter speed, or you can be using a high shutter speed but not enough light. With a shutter speed of 1/2000 which you can get on most cheap camcorders these days, there should be very little/no blurriness of the hands. Anyway, the fact is that Bobby has snapped quite a few XXX shafts when loading on the downstroke. Could it be that stiffer shafts are actually easier to break than whippy shafts if you're strong? I don't know...

[Golfie McG]

Guys, if you think the shaft bending look by Bobby is a shutter speed issue, I suggest you try and film yourself with a moderate shutter speed camera (e.g. 1/1000) and see. The greater the blurriness the lower the shutter speed, or you can be using a high shutter speed but not enough light. With a shutter speed of 1/2000 which you can get on most cheap camcorders these days, there should be very little/no blurriness of the hands. Anyway, the fact is that Bobby has snapped quite a few XXX shafts when loading on the downstroke. Could it be that stiffer shafts are actually easier to break than whippy shafts if you're strong? I don't know...

Tong,

I assume from your response that you tried the experiment and failed? Nuf said.

There may be other issues with the photography. The only inages worth considering for this kind of evidence are stroboscopic. Over and out.


Golfie

[tongzilla]

Tong,

I assume from your response that you tried the experiment and failed? Nuf said.

There may be other issues with the photography. The only inages worth considering for this kind of evidence are stroboscopic. Over and out.


Golfie

I get what you're saying. Video images exaggerate degree of bend. Understood. But my original point still holds...

[Golfie McG]

Golfie,

Can you please elaborate on this statement..."The shaft is bent so that it is toe up, is it not?"

Justin,

The clubhead has rotated to the plane. The transition bends the club shaft so the the toe effectively becomes marginally closer to the grip of the club - therefore I choose to say toe up. What good is that. The Lag that Homer believed in was that the shaft would be bent backwards prior to impact. This is a different bend.

Golfie

PS I wish I had Yoda's gift for writing clarity!

[tongzilla]

The Lag that Homer believed in was that the shaft would be bent backwards prior to impact. This is a different bend.

By the way Golfie, I really appreciate your contributions.

Can you please give references in the book regarding your statement above?

Thanks