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Old 04-09-2006, 09:47 PM
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Old 04-09-2006, 10:10 PM
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What exactly is the "geometrical basis" of the Pivot moving parallel to the Delivery Line?

I find it intriguing that Homer refers to "Parallel Pivot" as a "therapy" (similar to the way he uses the term in the 'exaggerated inside-out Cut Shot Therapy' as a drill to cure Steering. See 3-F-7-A) because it's something that should happen anyway, and it's also hard to exaggerate.

What are the "three motions" Homer was referring to that lifts the Clubhead above Plane?
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Has anyone tried this drill on students?

It looks like it would be good for those that get outside the plane, or "over the top". Looks like it might cause those that tend to get too shallow... to get even more shallow.
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Old 04-09-2006, 10:39 PM
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Has anyone tried this drill on students?

It looks like it would be good for those that get outside the plane, or "over the top". Looks like it might cause those that tend to get too shallow... to get even more shallow.
Ted tried it on Bucket . . . and it worked! To me this is HUGE. I was having trouble with "roundhousing" and the shoulder going out from the top. If I just made my pivot comply to the Angle of Approach Delivery Line i.e. cross-line out to right field, then by moving my pivot PARALLEL (cross-line) my shoulder stays back and down. And my head stays stationary to boot.

Lagster you are absolutely right . . . . I think this can help A WHOLE BUNCH of people. By having people move the hands club and pivot cross-line, you can use your instincts and not go over the top.

Ted = genius.
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Ted tried it on Bucket . . . and it worked! To me this is HUGE. I was having trouble with "roundhousing" and the shoulder going out from the top. If I just made my pivot comply to the Angle of Approach Delivery Line i.e. cross-line out to right field, then by moving my pivot PARALLEL (cross-line) my shoulder stays back and down. And my head stays stationary to boot.

Lagster you are absolutely right . . . . I think this can help A WHOLE BUNCH of people. By having people move the hands club and pivot cross-line, you can use your instincts and not go over the top.

Ted = genius.
Bucket, are you using the Angle of Approach Delivery Line as a Swinger or Hitter?
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Bucket, are you using the Angle of Approach Delivery Line as a Swinger or Hitter?
I have been using it in Hitting . . . but that is a question that I'm trying to figure out . . . is it possible to use it for Swinging? Thoughts?
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The "Angle of Approach" of your right forearm is technically correct for hitting or swinging. They both work on the same plane!!!
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Ted tried it on Bucket . . . and it worked! To me this is HUGE. I was having trouble with "roundhousing" and the shoulder going out from the top. If I just made my pivot comply to the Angle of Approach Delivery Line i.e. cross-line out to right field, then by moving my pivot PARALLEL (cross-line) my shoulder stays back and down. And my head stays stationary to boot.

Lagster you are absolutely right . . . . I think this can help A WHOLE BUNCH of people. By having people move the hands club and pivot cross-line, you can use your instincts and not go over the top.

Ted = genius.
Align left and swing to right field like Freddy. I enjoyed watching him play at Augusta. Really impressed.
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Ted tried it on Bucket . . . and it worked! To me this is HUGE. I was having trouble with "roundhousing" and the shoulder going out from the top. If I just made my pivot comply to the Angle of Approach Delivery Line i.e. cross-line out to right field, then by moving my pivot PARALLEL (cross-line) my shoulder stays back and down. And my head stays stationary to boot.

Lagster you are absolutely right . . . . I think this can help A WHOLE BUNCH of people. By having people move the hands club and pivot cross-line, you can use your instincts and not go over the top.

Ted = genius.
Bucket, I just missed you!! had to eat all those peanut butter 'nanner sandwiches by myself.

Ted also tried this on bambam last Thursday.

Ted = genius....bambam = pivot controlled roundhouser

My roundhousing problem is rooted in my lack of understanding of where the hands/arms needed to be and habits from my old baseball swing. Ted had me hit the ball out towards the first baseman (exagerated) to help get the concept in my coconut. Once I understood where I should have been (this is an old, ingrained habit, so it took a couple days), my pivot started behaving better to comply with what my hands/arms wanted to do. The parallel hip slide concept has definately helped with this.
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Bucket, I just missed you!! had to eat all those peanut butter 'nanner sandwiches by myself.

Ted also tried this on bambam last Thursday.

Ted = genius....bambam = pivot controlled roundhouser

My roundhousing problem is rooted in my lack of understanding of where the hands/arms needed to be and habits from my old baseball swing. Ted had me hit the ball out towards the first baseman (exagerated) to help get the concept in my coconut. Once I understood where I should have been (this is an old, ingrained habit, so it took a couple days), my pivot started behaving better to comply with what my hands/arms wanted to do. The parallel hip slide concept has definately helped with this.
Dude! Hate I missed you!

Going cross-line is a bit spookie. You feel like "well that's in the right trees and look up and the rock is streakin' at the flag."

How about this for a quote . . . from the 5th Edition . . .
2-J-3 PLANE LINE EQUIVALENTS . . . So select an alternate Target Line - for the Clubhead. Some object at which your selected Delivery Line or Angle of Approach points. At which the Clubhead is to be thrown, driven, swung or whatever. The line of the Rolling Left Hand (4-D). Not just "as if" but "for real." Now you have a Clubface Line (the Target Line 2-J-1) and a Clubhead Line (the Alternate Target 2-N). So - unless the Ball is at the Low Point, they must be two separate distinct alignments but per 7-2, they must be one inseparable Feel. Also the Right Forearm presents the correct Angle of Approach and its utilization is far superior to all other procedures. So, during Address Routine and Takeaway, adjust the Clubhead Angle of Approach to appear parallel to the Right Forearm.
So wanna see the cross-line direction and how much cross-line? Look down on the ground and imagine a line PARALLEL TO YOUR ON-PLANE RIGHT FOREARM AT FIX. Whooooomp der it tis!!!! This is your Alternate Target Line per the above for the Clubhead. And per the 3rd edition . . .
6-G-0 HAND MOTION . . . The On-Plane relationship of the Hands, Shoulder Turn and Hip Turn causes them to feel and look (to the player) as though they were all travelling parallel with the Plane Line form Top to Finish. Having a geometrical basis, this "Parallel Pivot" is acceptable therapy for the tendency for any or all of these three motions to left the Clubhead "Above" Plane and set up Pull Shot alignments. ROUNDHOUSING anyone??????????
So I'm sure you heard from Daddy Hurt . . . ABANDON the 10-5-A Plane Line???? Right??? Remember? ABANDON THE DAMN THING!!!
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Old 04-12-2006, 06:22 AM
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It has been mentioned before: It can help you, presetting your hips closed, parallel to the angle of approach.
Can some of the gurus please elaborate.
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