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Old 07-27-2006, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vj

Concentrate on the "whole" ball during the stroke. Alot of us tend to watch the putterhead move back. If you do this you will not putt well.

Aim as small as possible. Never aim at an area, aim at the smallest thing possible, like a blade of grass or the edge of an old ball mark. This way if you miss that quarter inch target you will still have a chance of hitting the 4.25 inch target.
This is very similar to the "Quiet Eye" theory that GD wrote about a while back. The best putters focused on the back of the ball and a small spot in the cup or on the line whereas poor putters gaze was all over the place.
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:01 PM
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Most players don't aim well because they have never been puttter fit 2 Aim....David Edel....is the next Scotty Cameron..His fitting system is superior to all others and His artwork is as good ....if not better than the "Crown" of Putters..Mr. Cameron...

Putter Fit..

Head Design
Head Material
Hosel Shape
Offset
Impact Loft
Lie
Length
Etc...

www.edelgolf.com
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Old 07-27-2006, 02:06 PM
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Looks like an interesting fitting system---too bad it's mostly west coast locations. Guess I'll continue to base my putter selection on feel.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dcg1952
Looks like an interesting fitting system---too bad it's mostly west coast locations. Guess I'll continue to base my putter selection on feel.
Don't rely on feel...she will lie to you just to get in your pockets...Just because she looks good and feeels good doesn't mean she's someone you should be married to....I had a Napa by Scotty Cameron... given to me by PGA Tour Player, Neal Lancaster...beautiful putter..best feeling of all of them...from 6 ft on a laser I aimed approx. 2 cups to the left then proceded to ruin my stroke by downstroke loading and blocking them right into the hole occasionally....now putting with a "Fax Day"...Circle T..Not hte purttiest girl at the dance ....feels good in my arms and I can split her in the middle!!! with a laser ..she's lookin where I'm lookin!! So it's not a sale for edelgolf..just the best putter fitting you can get!!!!!No matter what the brand!!!!
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:30 PM
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Don't rely on feel...she will lie to you just to get in your pockets...Just because she looks good and feeels good doesn't mean she's someone you should be married to....I had a Napa by Scotty Cameron... given to me by PGA Tour Player, Neal Lancaster...beautiful putter..best feeling of all of them...from 6 ft on a laser I aimed approx. 2 cups to the left then proceded to ruin my stroke by downstroke loading and blocking them right into the hole occasionally....now putting with a "Fax Day"...Circle T..Not hte purttiest girl at the dance ....feels good in my arms and I can split her in the middle!!! with a laser ..she's lookin where I'm lookin!! So it's not a sale for edelgolf..just the best putter fitting you can get!!!!!No matter what the brand!!!!
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Sounds real good(Edel)!!!

Mike Shannon does something similar, but this sounds very good.

If the putter is actually aimed where you think it is... you have a better chance.
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:47 AM
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Sounds real good(Edel)!!!

Mike Shannon does something similar, but this sounds very good.

If the putter is actually aimed where you think it is... you have a better chance.
Yeah..but does Mike Shannon make putters?


Or just Teach Putting?


You see..this is NOT even close to the Slazenger Fitting sytem with Kirk Currie....

This dude is going to be picked up by someone very large in the Industry....

Insider Trading????
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:43 AM
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Intermediate target is good only to get the general direction of your putt. To master precision aiming, you must learn to aim to a blade of grass from 1 to 100+ feet by seeing a straight line with your eyes and head swivel (with neck parallel to ground). Once you can do this you will know how rubbish it is to line up with the logo.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:18 PM
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I agree Tong Tong..Learning to Aim the Logo or a is all rubbish...Unfortunatley most golfers are so ignorant to the fact they are putting with putters..they will never aim..I mean NEVER...no matter how often they practice or eye doctors or psychiatrists...or???????

Do you think a degree of loft would affect aim?

How about 1/16 of a degree of offset?

How about the Head design of a long,skinny rectangle versus a fat half circle?

What about color of Head material?

What about the Location of the Line on the Top Line or the Flange or no line at all?

The height of the Toe versus the Heel?

The Lie angle?

Left Eye versus Right Eye?

Ball location?

Plane of the Eyes...right., parallel or left?

Distance from the ball?

and so....and... so on!!!
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
I agree Tong Tong..Learning to Aim the Logo or a is all rubbish...Unfortunatley most golfers are so ignorant to the fact they are putting with putters..they will never aim..I mean NEVER...no matter how often they practice or eye doctors or psychiatrists...or???????

Do you think a degree of loft would affect aim?

How about 1/16 of a degree of offset?

How about the Head design of a long,skinny rectangle versus a fat half circle?

What about color of Head material?

What about the Location of the Line on the Top Line or the Flange or no line at all?

The height of the Toe versus the Heel?

The Lie angle?

Left Eye versus Right Eye?

Ball location?

Plane of the Eyes...right., parallel or left?

Distance from the ball?

and so....and... so on!!!
I'd have to disagree with Tong, only on one point. I like the eyes and head swivel for the straight liners. I think that's very good information. But, there are those that see curves. Let's not forget them. When one uses a visually curved path, the (straight line) head swivel must be abandoned. The head will move in any way that it must to let the eyes trace the curved path that the ball will take. Some see the straight line that shoots 2 ½ cups outside the hole. Some see the entire path of the ball which is the curved line. Some see both. There are some that don't visualize the straight line, so there can't be one way for the head to move.

It might be interesting to ask everyone what they use.
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:25 AM
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When you see a curved line, does that mean you physically try to putt the ball in a curved line? I don't think so. Instead, you still make a STRAIGHT PUTT, but the slope is what causes the ball to curve.

For those curved liners out there, whether you realise it or not, you have automatically seen the straight line once you have visualised the curved path of the ball. The straight line is simply the starting direction of the curved path.
Vice versa for straight liners. You cannot know where to point your straight line unless you can visualise how the ball is going to curve into the hole. By seeing one you see the other.
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