"Creation of Lag Pressure" by Ted Fort

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Old 11-21-2006, 05:13 PM
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"Creation of Lag Pressure" by Ted Fort
Ted has frequently noted that the "Creation of Lag Pressure" is a key area of why his golf swing improved so much. As I watched and rewatched Ted Fort execute his downswing waggle in the "Address" Video, this slow, non violent movement didn't seem to be the primary source of the Ted's "Creation of Lag Pressure". (In the "Hitter's Row" video, Yoda certainly appears to generate a much higher amount of shaft bend with the more violent swinger's downswing waggle than what Ted Fort displays as his hips begin their move forward.

My eyes suggest that Ted Fort achieves a much higher percentage of his "creation of lag" "driving down to China" during his paddlewheel punch, than he does earlier in the downswing. Hoping to get confirmation as to whether or not my assumption is accurate?

Btw, in my humble opinion, the "Lynn Blake, Ted Fort, Jeff Hull Part Two" video is far and away the most important source of correct hitting information available on this website. If you are a Hitter and haven't yet studied Part Two of the Address Video, you are missing out on what I consider to be the most valuable source of Hitter's wisdow available on this website to date.

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Old 11-21-2006, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rvwink
Ted has frequently noted that the "Creation of Lag Pressure" is a key area of why his golf swing improved so much. As I watched and rewatched Ted Fort execute his downswing waggle in the "Address" Video, this slow, non violent movement didn't seem to be the primary source of the Ted's "Creation of Lag Pressure". (In the "Hitter's Row" video, Yoda certainly appears to generate a much higher amount of shaft bend with the more violent swinger's downswing waggle than what Ted Fort displays as his hips begin their move forward.

My eyes suggest that Ted Fort achieves a much higher percentage of his "creation of lag" "driving down to China" during his paddlewheel punch, than he does earlier in the downswing. Hoping to get confirmation as to whether or not my assumption is accurate?

Btw, in my humble opinion, the "Lynn Blake, Ted Fort, Jeff Hull Part Two" video is far and away the most important source of correct hitting information available on this website. If you are a Hitter and haven't yet studied Part Two of the Address Video, you are missing out on what I consider to be the most valuable source of Hitter's wisdow available on this website to date.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/v...se_images&g=30
Dude . . . Remember "Over-Acceleration is the menace that stalks all lag and drag." You don't need crazy amounts of lag pressure. You need an amount that you can SUSTAIN!!!

When asked about how much pressure . . . Homer Kelley said " You only need a pound of pressure."

This is why it is so vitally important to get with the message your hands are sending you . . . . it is a subtle message. If you overload your pressure points . . . it's a recipe for Throwaway.

Lag is fleeting . . . . the Hitter will feel it GREATER than the Swinger also in a different location because the Hitter's pressure point MUST NOT ROTATE. But still you don't want to feel copius amounts of pressure . . . just a pound'll do ya.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:36 PM
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My query was not so much about "how much" lag pressure should be added to one's swing. Rather I was curious about how much lag pressure was being generated during the suprisingly non violent looking hitter's downswing waggle, and whether the majority of the lag wasn't being exerted instead during the punching motion that followed. No disrespect intended, but I would feel much more comfortable if the author of the hitter's swing I was studying, Ted Fort, might possibly provide the answer to my question.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rvwink
My query was not so much about "how much" lag pressure should be added to one's swing. Rather I was curious about how much lag pressure was being generated during the suprisingly non violent looking hitter's downswing waggle, and whether the majority of the lag wasn't being exerted instead during the punching motion that followed. No disrespect intended, but I would feel much more comfortable if the author of the hitter's swing I was studying, Ted Fort, might possibly provide the answer to my question.
No offense taken . . . I just thought you may want to know Homer Kelley's thoughts on the matter . . . I'd certainly like to hear Ted's as well.

One thing to think about would be in regards to your query the nature of Hand Acceleration required in the Hitters Stroke inorder to sustain the Lag Pressure loaded by the Pivot . . . the "non violent" looking Downstroke Waggle (and Start Down) has much to do with the nature of Hand Acceleration and thus Lag Pressure.

The Swinger's method of Acceleration vs. the Hitter's is where the answer to your query lies.
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
No offense taken . . . I just thought you may want to know Homer Kelley's thoughts on the matter . . . I'd certainly like to hear Ted's as well.

One thing to think about would be in regards to your query the nature of Hand Acceleration required in the Hitters Stroke inorder to sustain the Lag Pressure loaded by the Pivot . . . the "non violent" looking Downstroke Waggle (and Start Down) has much to do with the nature of Hand Acceleration and thus Lag Pressure.

The Swinger's method of Acceleration vs. the Hitter's is where the answer to your query lies.
Be aware that 'quick startdown' in a swinger's case does not mean 'quick hands', but is a function of the pivot train moving from the feet up through the body at startdown - at its quickest producing snap loading via quick knee motion/hip action.
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Here are two more observation on the same subject.

1) Lynn Blake discussing the subject of hitting with Ted Fort in part two of the Lynn Blake/Ted Fort/Jeff Hull Video said that "all the hitter's got is his right triceps and if you start using it too soon, your dead." That seems to be a suggestion that the slow downswing waggle simply sets up the right elbow properly "taking up the slack", so that that the right triceps is able to generate maximum lag punching through the ball?

2) There seems to be a signficant difference between Lynn Blake's hitter's start down waggle as shown in the previous Lynn Blake/Jeff Hull video and Ted Fort's. In Lynn Blake's startdown waggle, the right knee bends forward forward as his hips both rotate and move forward. From what I could see Ted's downswing waggle is limited to forward hip movement. Perhaps his hip rotation is reserved to support his "paddlewheel punch".

Are my eyes deceiving me? I wonder whether because Lynn switches between hitting and swinging frequently, it is impossible for him to modify all aspects of his swing throughly everytime he changes from his hitting swing to swinging swing?
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Originally Posted by EdZ
Be aware that 'quick startdown' in a swinger's case does not mean 'quick hands', but is a function of the pivot train moving from the feet up through the body at startdown - at its quickest producing snap loading via quick knee motion/hip action.
E . . . What would be your description of INSTANT HIP ACCELERATION?

This is one that continues to elude Bucket.

What does it look/feel like? I think Hogan did it but are their any current players that would be posterboys?
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