TGM Teaching Session

[moorejr12]

Mr. Lynn and Teaching Staff:
Did you attend the recent TGM Teaching Summit? If you did was there any data presented or discussed that would enhance swing mechanics? I have heard some data but would like to get your input on the session.

moorejr12

[Yoda]

Mr. Lynn and Teaching Staff:
Did you attend the recent TGM Teaching Summit? If you did was there any data presented or discussed that would enhance swing mechanics? I have heard some data but would like to get your input on the session.

moorejr12

No, jr, I did not attend the Summit and have no transcripts or video. Therefore, I cannot comment on the presentations.

However, see the posts here, including my own: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=5267 .

[moorejr12]

Thank you for the link I appreciate. I hope you and your family have nice holidays.

moorejr

[drewitgolf]

I was unable to attend because of personal commitments, but my fellow A.I.'s bax1865 and sligo33 were in attendance. Boys, any light you can shine upon the darkness???

[Sligo33]

Drew,

Will post my impressions, of the Summit, after I have time to clearly reflect and communicate my thoughts. BBax had a great post concerning the Dr Z. subject. Much was made of the rear inside quadrant of the ball. Yoda had a great post, in the Dr.Z. thread, regarding this. It is the HANDS that seek the inside quadrant. From my recollection, Dr. Z. was asked about the Clubhead contacting or moving towards the inside aft quadrant. In that respect, it may help to explain his answer. I have not read the the post on the other website that prompted all the excitement. So unable to comment any further.

The summit was a great experience. Your company was missed. It was wonderful to meet all the attendees and speakers. Agree with BBax. Hope to see and meet more A.I.'s, at a future summit.

[okie]

From his own website:

Anyhoo...

1. Ball Behavior the same for Angled and Horizontal Hinging.

2. You don't hit it very much on the inside-aft at all.

3. You can't resist impact deceleration a lick.

and several others....

But, my personal fav:

If you swing down the "Alternate Target Line" or "Angled of Approach" or anything like it, you get a BIG HOOK or big PUSH, at best.

This got my interest!

[okie]

And this:

Nope.

The ball has NO IDEA about "plane lines" or "plane angles," just the PATH the clubhead makes through the ball.

And, by path, I mean up and down AND out and in.

So...in your example, the clubhead would still be moving OUT and the ball would respond to the effects of PATH vs. clubface.

Mr. Kelly did his best, but, on this one, he whiffed.

I have no issue with new information. My issue is the authority with which Dr. Z's sychophants pontificate. Of course, copies of the summit (and Dr. Z's information) are only made available to AIs (as far as I know)so we will have to take their word for it! Ah the potential of new information held by a select few! I do not eliminate the possibility of Mr. Kelley being off a bit here and there, though I do not think it probable based on information from ONE TGM summit. I have noticed the tendency of many golf instructors to seek new information, which is then translated into their own vernacular for marketing purposes. I think we should debunk points of Mr. Kelley's work in a more organized and open fashion, don't you think? Who is reading over Dr. Z's shoulder?

Merry Christmas!

[wolfman]

Seems like you are out to cause trouble.

Your posts do not contribute to anyone's attempt at learning golf or G.O.L.F.

Give it a rest.

[okie]

Sorry you feel that way, Wolfman! I would suggest that your interpretation of my intentions are decidedly more caustic than my own. This is my point, I take exception to a casual mention of Mr. Kelley having "whiffed" using information that I cannot peruse myself. Considering the textbook that we rely on so heavily is Mr. Kelley's magnum opus, ANYTHING, that calls the information he has given us into question must be fully vetted. I was hoping to rely on the wealth of expertise that is represented by this site, NOT stir a hornet's nest! I'm not that phased by controversy, as long as it is not conducted ad hominem. Admittedly, the information was not courtesy of this forum, but a widely respected savant of TGM resides here!

One last thing. Why did you not speak to the topic? Surely, you cannot call me to task when you have little to offer pertaining to the topic at hand. Shouting someone down does nothing to quell what you suggest!

Having said all of that there is no malice here, just a little controversy!

Have a Merry Christmas!

[Yoda]

Both points duly noted.

Merry Christmas, gentlemen!



On events such as the TGM Summit, Brian would be the first to say that he operates as a "fair game" reporter -- I learned that term from him -- and that he offers his own unvarnished opinions as a bonus.

I'm cool with that. Chacun son goût.

Further, we enjoy the discussion of 'issues' here and learn from each 'gauntlet thrown' and dissenting opinions. Vitriol, on the other hand, is counterproductive, and that's where we draw the line.

Let's discuss facts, opinions and opinions presented as facts. And do so with passion!

But also with civility.