#1 08-22-2010, 05:24 AM airair Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 5,930 TGM perfect? What do you say to what Michael Jacobs says about TGM, that it is old-fashioned in some areas: -- 3D analysis of ball - club - body has provided a lot more valid scientific information that The Golfing Machine does not provide at the moment. To name some quickly: Hitting & Swinging Hinging Heavy Hit Geometry of the stroke Component List Would love to see it get updated!!! We will probably get into this area much more in the winter time Michael Jacobs, GSED airair View Public Profile Send a private message to airair Find all posts by airair