Tour pro Hitters

[chipingguru]

When I am pitching with angled hinging i like to try to make the ball hit and spin left, then hit and spin right, all with different ball position.

Personally, I think it is an easier shot under pressure than Horizontal hinging, which I stub on occasion and can get a bit flippy.

[JTillery]

I agree guru....when the pressures on I would always rather produce the desired shot via clubface at address and use an angled hinge. For a low runner, for example, I would be much more comfortable playing a 9 iron back with a slightly closed face and use angled hinging. While a mid-body ball position, square face, and horizontal hinge will produce that same basic shot, that's more "roll feel" than I want to have to keep up with if anyone's watchin!!!
However, there are people who are exactly the other way around and that's also perfectly fine!! There's beauty in the freedom to acquire your own style.....

[JTillery]

In my last post, I mentioned that Hinge Action was not in 6-H-0. It is and I apologize for the oversight. In any event, Hitters can employ Horizontal Hinge Action just like Swingers can use Angled Hinge Action. You are just going a little "against the grain" if you do this.

I think Perry is a Hitter who use Horizontal Hinging and a 10-5-E setup to produce a draw. Again sorry for misquoting and I look forward to learning more from you all.

My thoughts exactly. I'm interested to hear more on this, but the horizontal hinge and inability to hit a cut by themselves doesn't disqualify him from being a hitter IMHO.

[JTillery]

"don't" disqualify him

[john riegger]

you guys make some interesting points.first let me say i feel like i hit it as hard as i can with my right hand even though i'm swinging.i can also tell you that when i hit using hitting motion it feels similiar,but the follow thru and finish are completely different.from trackman data the face means everything for ball control.it would be almost impossible to use horizontal hinge action with hitting motion.just try it on a pitch shot.
i have watched and played with kenny since we where 13 banging our own shags at the muni in paducah,ky.played 20 plus yrs on tour with him.believe it or not he has some tgm teaching.ron gring.i worked with ron also at the time.you can have right arm participation while applying swing motion.with my knowledge which is poor,there are only a few tour players that hit or have used hitting motion.yoda you think bg hits and we both disagree with you.just our own opions.btw your the second smartest person i have ever talked golf with and i've been around the greats.still haven't met the smartest.gotcha there didn't i.i have never seen anyone use hitting and swinging from shot to shot in tournament rounds.like i said seen,i cannot watch myself.golf clap ty.for you guys that can hit go do it with a driver and hit me a 5-10 draw every time.i can hit even with the drive and cannot draw the ball.thats why mr kelly suggest to use angled hinging with hitting,plain and simple it's just compatible.ther's a reason kp is horizontal hinging,because he is swinging.if only he could do something different i would have a good friend that won the masters,because he could hit a fade with his driver.
thx for your time guys have at it if you want but you will never convince me he hits

[Yoda]

you guys make some interesting points.first let me say i feel like i hit it as hard as i can with my right hand even though i'm swinging.i can also tell you that when i hit using hitting motion it feels similiar,but the follow thru and finish are completely different.from trackman data the face means everything for ball control.it would be almost impossible to use horizontal hinge action with hitting motion.just try it on a pitch shot.
i have watched and played with kenny since we where 13 banging our own shags at the muni in paducah,ky.played 20 plus yrs on tour with him.believe it or not he has some tgm teaching.ron gring.i worked with ron also at the time.you can have right arm participation while applying swing motion.with my knowledge which is poor,there are only a few tour players that hit or have used hitting motion.yoda you think bg hits and we both disagree with you.just our own opions.btw your the second smartest person i have ever talked golf with and i've been around the greats.still haven't met the smartest.gotcha there didn't i.i have never seen anyone use hitting and swinging from shot to shot in tournament rounds.like i said seen,i cannot watch myself.golf clap ty.for you guys that can hit go do it with a driver and hit me a 5-10 draw every time.i can hit even with the drive and cannot draw the ball.thats why mr kelly suggest to use angled hinging with hitting,plain and simple it's just compatible.ther's a reason kp is horizontal hinging,because he is swinging.if only he could do something different i would have a good friend that won the masters,because he could hit a fade with his driver.
thx for your time guys have at it if you want but you will never convince me he hits

Where else, guys?

Where else?

[Yoda]

you think bg hits and we both disagree with you.just our own opions.btw your the second smartest person i have ever talked golf with and i've been around the greats.still haven't met the smartest.gotcha there didn't i.i have never seen anyone use hitting and swinging from shot to shot in tournament rounds.like i said seen,i cannot watch myself.

Yada. Yada. Yada.



BG whacks at it now with the same action he's had since he was a little guy ten years old. The only difference is that now he keeps his feet on the ground! He finds it absolutely impossible to do your -- or my -- Left Wrist DRAG Loading from the Top.

He has no sense of its Snap Release, Centrifugal Force Throw Out Action into Release. Instead, he loads his Right Elbow, "Sweep" Releases and then DRIVES!

Wild.

Where was it, John, that in the 4th round, your legs just 'gave out', and you consciously went from Swinging -- Body Momentum Transfer -- to Hitting -- pure Right Arm Drive-Out -- for the rest of the round. Went low, as I recall!

C'mon. Don't say it can't be done or isn't being done.

I've seen you do it!

[chipingguru]

Interesting how many great golfers talk about hitting it as hard as they can with the right hand. Hogan's famous "wish I had three right hands" remark and I think Jack W. said something similar.

Isn't it the case that there are different categories of hitters? Right arm thower, and those that also use the pivot to power the bent right arm into impact/release then drive the right arm? I would think thats the PGA Tour version.

Hitters power with pivot and swingers utilize the right arm. Thus the difficulty in distinguishing them by visual observation.

[john riegger]

that was athens,ga nationwide,and as i recall you didn't believe i could go from one to the other.i had to show you the next week.i shot 65 i believe.i haven't seen anyone else be able to do what i did that round.i use hitting and swinging from shot to shot depending on the shot at hand and the situation at the time.but i can say i only use hitting to eliminate the left side of the course and use it from primary rough,i just found it helps from the face closing down.hitting is far superior than swinging in my observation.but like i stated earlier all i can produce is a fade,with never the fear of it going left.just wander why i just don't hit all the time,but golf you have to play shots to tucked pins and its hard to retrain the mind to go against what you see.thats why its so f%^& hard.especially when your baby needs a new pair of shoes.
about time for us to get things cranked up for the new year lynn.i'm rebuilding a few components for the new body i'm working on.how about my boy lefty in hawaii
62?

[john riegger]

bg is still pulling with his left side look at his left wrist from top to impact