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Old 11-27-2011, 11:46 PM
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The first three editions of The Golfing Machine offered "Sample" Stroke Patterns for Golf Strokes from Drive to Putt. The Power Accumulator combinations varied accordingly.

Beginning with the 4th edition, these were eliminated and replaced with the two "Basic" Stroke Patterns (Hitting / 12-1-0 and Swinging / 12-2-0). Homer then advised that these two Basic Patterns be customized by the player as deemed necessary for the Stroke at hand.

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Old 11-28-2011, 01:11 AM
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"X" (1-K).

Thanks Mr. Yoda. I guess I have to buy the book to look it up, huh?

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Old 11-28-2011, 01:26 AM
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I know for a fact that O.B. Left understands the Hinge Actions and Rhythm. He learned it one-on-one with me and has demonstrated it to me (and others!) many times. However, I used his typo as an opportunity to 'fill in the blanks' for those new to our concepts.

Re-reading my post #14 above -- and substituting "Horizontal" for "Vertical" in O.B.'s post --I can see where his question arose. The writing wasn't as clear as it might have been. Only a guy with O.B.'s in depth understanding could have asked for clarification in my post as written.

Got grandkids all over me at the moment . . . "Poppy!!"

I'll clarify the issue tomorrow.


Thanks Yoda

You mention Rhythm something Ive been thinking a lot about lately. How tuff it is to spell etc. Im coming to the conclusion that its often the difference between good and bad shots for the accomplished golfer (on down).... 'Course it helps if you cock and uncock on plane ...which is really easy to get wrong conceptually and practically. I did, but not anymore. " Im sending bullets out there" ever since I got rid of any Horizontal Left Hand Motion. I wish it was spring, dangit. I keep going out into the backyard to feel it and the Lag it encourages in my swing ....man it feels good. Hope it doesn't snow this week.

Im talking Homer's Rhythm of course. Bucks right , say what you will but Homer was a genius. A bit of nut bar sure but I like that in my geniuses.

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Old 11-28-2011, 10:58 AM
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Thanks Yoda

You mention Rhythm something Ive been thinking a lot about lately. How tuff it is to spell etc. Im coming to the conclusion that its often the difference between good and bad shots for the accomplished golfer (on down).... 'Course it helps if you cock and uncock on plane ...which is really easy to get wrong conceptually and practically. I did, but not anymore. " Im sending bullets out there" ever since I got rid of any Horizontal Left Hand Motion. I wish it was spring, dangit. I keep going out into the backyard to feel it and the Lag it encourages in my swing ....man it feels good. Hope it doesn't snow this week.

Im talking Homer's Rhythm of course. Bucks right , say what you will but Homer was a genius. A bit of nut bar sure but I like that in my geniuses.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.
All,

Sorry, but what really does Rhythm refer to? Proper sequencing of release of pa2 then pa3? The timing of not only sequencing, but also the time gap between them, or none of it?

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Old 11-28-2011, 01:13 PM
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Thanks Mr. Yoda. I guess I have to buy the book to look it up, huh?
http://www.thegolfingmachine.com/boo...olfing-machine

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Old 12-04-2011, 10:33 PM
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Mr. Yoda,

By the way, you said secret to golf is the lag. I think you are ULTIMATELY referring to maximum pa3 angle. It makes it easier to have lag (come to think of it, it's "built-in" lag.. ), and ensures it even if you've already released pa2 ( which to my mind you can do nothing about anyway..). What do you think of my statements? How true, or false, or delusional are they? Lol

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Old 05-02-2012, 12:45 PM
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Why is it that #3 is so taken for granted in TGM? I think, please correct me if I'm wrong, TGM is so into #2.

Why is it that #3 CANNOT, in TGM, be ahead or the Main Power Package together with #4?

Aside from the Audio tapes mentioned by OBLeft in the Hogan 24 Components thread I put up, is there any other rationale for this?
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:34 PM
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Why is it that #3 is so taken for granted in TGM? I think, please correct me if I'm wrong, TGM is so into #2.

Why is it that #3 CANNOT, in TGM, be ahead or the Main Power Package together with #4?

Aside from the Audio tapes mentioned by OBLeft in the Hogan 24 Components thread I put up, is there any other rationale for this?
Most of the clubhead speed is provided by #2, #3 is mainly a delivery mechanism, which is why the emphasis is on #2. A #4 & #3 two barrel pattern isn't realistic, because if you load #4, the right elbow bends, cocking the left wrist, adding #2.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:36 PM
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Most of the clubhead speed is provided by #2, #3 is mainly a delivery mechanism, which is why the emphasis is on #2. A #4 & #3 two barrel pattern isn't realistic, because if you load #4, the right elbow bends, cocking the left wrist, adding #2.
Choose between firing # 2 and #3 to effect Hinge selection?


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Old 05-02-2012, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
Most of the clubhead speed is provided by #2, #3 is mainly a delivery mechanism, which is why the emphasis is on #2. A #4 & #3 two barrel pattern isn't realistic, because if you load #4, the right elbow bends, cocking the left wrist, adding #2.
MJ,

I agree with that if we are not turning or pivoting. But while we are turning/rotating our bodies towards the target, would dumping #2 add to the speed of the turning pivot?

And to me, it will just add inconsistency because you are delivering the Sweetspot "vertically/downwards/slicey" rather than "directly head-on" as when you deliver it thru #3.

Imagine yourself already into releasing #4 (your pivoting already). During pivoting, would you rather "axe" the Sweetspot into the ball, or would you rather "slap" Sweetpsot into the ball face-on?

Clubhead Speed will be most efficiently attained by Centripetal Force, and that is, in a golf swing, the Pivoting (body) and the Rolling (L hand).

To illustrate, lets take an Ice Skater for example. When he/she is turning with another Ice Skater, would the 2nd Skater (the farther one) move faster if the 1st Skater dumps the 2nd Skater to the ground vertically, or if the 1st Skater throws or pulls the 2nd Skater to the target horizontally?
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