Left Wrist Positions

[daluqfam]

My interpretation of the left wrist during the "Swing Stations":

(1) At Address FLV (2) At Top FCT (3) At Impact (eventhough not a Station) FUV (4) At Finish FCR.

Please, give me confirmation or corrections. TIA. daluqfam

[MizunoJoe]

Left wrist should be FLV at impact so there will be uncocking through the impact interval. Were it FUL at impact, you wouldn't compress the ball very well.

[daluqfam]

Left wrist should be FLV at impact so there will be uncocking through the impact interval. Were it FUL at impact, you wouldn't compress the ball very well.

MJ, eventually the PA2 moves from cocked to undocked, if I'm understanding TGM properly. At what point in the swing does it hit FUL?

TIA

[Etzwane]

(1) FLV at Impact Fix (might be Address if you choose so) Standard Address is BLV

(3) as MizunoJoe said Impact is FLV and I think FUL at Follow Through

[daluqfam]

Thanks, guys.

[O.B.Left]

I dont think Finish should read FCR. Well not in a literal or visually flat way of speaking anyways.


" Wrist Conditions" are often overlooked but all important IMO.

Lots more to consider if you want to get into it and I believe we should. The difference between literally , visually "flat" and Homers geometrically Flat .. they are not the same etc etc. This is a common sticking point , a thing guys often get wrong , an exaggerated visually flat left wrist. Another one being a Flat left wrist where it isnt supposed to be Flat. Its as if the book itself has "snares". Even some TGM type teachers get it wrong . Some big names too. A misinterpretation of Homer. Not Lynn Blake though , not Ted Fort. I had it all wrong myself. This was the stuff of my most recent lesson with Lynn. Ive lost track but Im into double digits with him and this stuff , wrist conditions , is awesome. It completed the education of my hands if you will. Took a while to sink in, a long while. Im freewheeling now.

If you want to get it all straight the info is here on this site but you need to know where to look. Its easily overlooked.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread6100.html


Not very many flat left wrists post Finish Swivel on tour. While the Right Hand bend is not a source of power it must be released all the same for a free wheeling flail like action and that is powerful . See Hogan , Rory , Snead , old Tiger heck most everybody and notice their bend left wrist near Finish Swivel. Its like a return to adjusted hands bent left / flat right. You cant hold the left wrist flat the whole way and free wheel. Jones didnt do that. Through Impact.... yes Rolling the Flat Left Wrist is critical. Its accomplished by Lag and Drag though not a holding onto it deal . Rolling it is key ! Trying to hold it square (steering) will see the forces break the flat left wrist ....unless youve got a strangle hold on the handle.

[Meditation]

You are not going to have much wrist cock if the back of the hand is inline with the wrist joint unless you alter the grip. A correct grip and motion will allow a maximum wrist cock well past 90 degrees without requiring any physical change in the grip whatsoever.

[Daryl]

You are not going to have much wrist cock if the back of the hand is inline with the wrist joint unless you alter the grip. A correct grip and motion will allow a maximum wrist cock well past 90 degrees without requiring any physical change in the grip whatsoever.

A lot of players believe that. But, the Uncocking Left Wrist reaches its Maximum Speed Almost Instantly. So, what is the purpose of exaggerated Wrist Cock with a Bent Left Wrist?

[O.B.Left]

You are not going to have much wrist cock if the back of the hand is inline with the wrist joint unless you alter the grip. A correct grip and motion will allow a maximum wrist cock well past 90 degrees without requiring any physical change in the grip whatsoever.

Also , an attempt to form a visually flat left wrist at Top or Finish when you're starting with a slightly turned left hand grip type (as you should IMO) can only be accomplished via the introduction of some Horizontal Wrist Motion ..... An arching motion. Though small , this Horizontal wrist motion is still a "no no" as it breaks the Vertical only , Plane of the Left Wrist Cock and the Left Arm Flying Wedge and therefor Homers concept of Rhythm is lost.

Only the weakest , thumb on top truly vertical to the plane left hand grip types would show a truly flat left wrist at Top.

With a slightly Turned Left Hand grip type , a purely Vertical Left Hand Wrist Cock motion will see the Flat Left Wrist at Top have a slight bend or cup to it visually . Its Flat (capital F) , aka geometrically Flat but not visually or literally flat (lower case f).

To be blunt and with all due respect to several great GSED's who have come before us......there is some confusion around this issue as there were guys teaching a visually flat left wrist at Top and at Finish and through the Finish Swivel. Some even taught a flat left wrist in Finish Swivel with the palm facing the sky . Lynn does not teach any of this!!!!! That palm facing upwards towards the sky thing is an over swivel by the way.

My personal opinion is that being the gentleman Lynn is and never wishing to offend , he has never directly outlined this difference in the teaching of the Wrist Conditions. No doubt out of respect for those other teaching greats . But if you read his posts carefully his ideas on the Wrist Conditions are all here. I have in my records, emails where he kindly took me through the whole thing , with photo's of pro's displaying the conditions he likes.


Lynn teaches a Finish with the club running like an arrow through the ears , the left palm facing the target (not the Plane Line of the left ear or or ) and per Bob McDonald , Golf 1927 an "inward bend " of the left wrist. In an email to me he said "The LW is palm up to the plane at the end of FS (Finish Swivel) then rotates palm to target with the shoulder turn while retaining its "inward bend".

Dont get me wrong. The Flat Left Wrist is critical , Rolling the Flat Left Wrist through impact is all important . But like all things Flat can be over done to the point where it becomes a fault. A flail killer , a block to free wheeling motion , the ruination of the left arm flying wedge and Rhythm , capital R.

Lynn sent me these photos with a rhetorical "Any questions?" A picture is said to be worth a thousand words. Perhaps it can answer a thousand questions.

[O.B.Left]

With the left hand opened flat the back of the hand and the forearm appear to be inline, flat so to speak. But make a fist and see the introduction of a little bend . This is neutral, this is the strongest formation of the hand. This is what you'd punch with or lift weights with . It is Flat in Homer talk but its not flat , IMO.

Then add to this the notion of Impact Hands vs Adjusted Hands . FLAT LEFT / BENT RIGHT VS BENT LEFT /FLAT RIGHT. If the through swing is to match the back swing, mirror image like , you will need to re introduce the bent left / flat right relationship on the through swing. Ideally sometime around Finish Swivel..... not before . Not at Both Arms Straight , Follow Through, not at Impact. Maintaining clubhead lag will maintain the Impact Hands condition through these stages .... its not a holding on , muscling thing.

To me it feels like the flail needs somewhere to go . To manipulate a visually flat left hand at Finish Swivel and Finish is a block to the free wheeling flail action. This was the meat of my last lesson with Lynn. It set me free!!!! Sure it comes and goes like everything else in this game but I found my final pattern and this was its essence . Wrist Conditions , Flail Action , Lag and Drag in both directions . Look mom Im freewheeling . The hands ARE just clamps , the grip is firm the wrists are flexible , free .