Flat left, bent right
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01-22-2005, 10:31 AM
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Flat left, bent right
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Ok, i have a prob visualising how lag and the bent right works for the swinger. The hitter has it easier for mine due to his squarer clubface thru the swing. The swinger usually has the turn as well as the left wristcock. He also often leaves his release to CF. With the above swing how does he concentrate on lag and drag thru impact when it is automatic? Having to roll thru impact makes it hard for me to concentrate on keeping the handle ahead. Maybe it is the late uncocking on a karate chop plane that we need concetrate on?
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01-22-2005, 11:42 AM
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JohnT,
The exact center of the clubhead mass is the sweet spot. The clubshaft rotates around that point. You can hold any club horizontally between your fingers and roll the grip between you thumb and index finger to see this. The shaft rotates around the sweetspot.
In swinging, we are essentially letting the club rotate per it's design. That means the clubface needs to be turned on the backswing, and rolled on the downswing. The rolling will happen automatically as centrifigal force begins to act on the clubhead. You don't have to try and manipulate your hands for this to happen.
In hitting and swinging, the bent right wrist through impact assures that your hands are beating the clubhead to the ball and you are keeping a flat left wrist at impact. You will learn more about the importance of the flat left wrist/bent right wrist over time. It is one of the cornerstones of golf.
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01-22-2005, 12:37 PM
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Thank you very much
So what you imply is that our right wrist stays bent as our left rolls. I do find keeping the right bent seemingly affects left wrist uncocking a bit but am working with a dowel to explore the possibilities. Thanks heaps for the help 
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01-22-2005, 01:06 PM
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Re: Thank you very much
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Originally Posted by JohnThomas1
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So what you imply is that our right wrist stays bent as our left rolls. I do find keeping the right bent seemingly affects left wrist uncocking a bit but am working with a dowel to explore the possibilities. Thanks heaps for the help
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It not only stays bent, it stays "frozen" in that position from the start of the downswing, through impact, and as far past impact as you can take it into both arms straight.
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01-22-2005, 01:18 PM
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Ok
but this doesn't keep the left wrist cocked?
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John
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01-22-2005, 01:23 PM
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Re: Ok
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Originally Posted by JohnThomas1
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but this doesn't keep the left wrist cocked?
Thanks heaps
John
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OK - Hold on and get ready for some serious fog lifting!!!
These are GREAT questions JT.
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01-22-2005, 01:32 PM
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Wow
thank you sincerely Bagger. My terminology will improve each day, my book arrived only days ago. I appreciate your quick responses, tho i am more than prepared to wait any amount of time for answers.
John
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01-22-2005, 02:30 PM
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Yoda's video
When htting or swinging does Yoda vary his hinge between angled and horizontal?
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01-22-2005, 08:01 PM
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Thanks rwh,
I've been meaning to get back to this question but figured someone would jump in.
JT - The right wrist doesn't cock, it bends back on itself. Go ahead and put your right arm in front of you, when you cock your wrist, you will see wrinkles in the skin below your thumb. Now instead of cocking, bend it back. You will see wrinkles across the back of your hand, but not below your thumb. Now, your results may vary depending on your anatomy, but you get the idea.
As rwh mentions, at the top of the swing you don't need to cock your right wrist. The bent right elbow acts to put the right forearm and wrist in the correct alignment at the top. Your LEFT wrist will cock.
This is PART of what is known as the "Flying Wedges" in TGM. The concept is important enough that Yoda will very likely post a thread for it in the the advanced forum.
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01-22-2005, 08:38 PM
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Ok
Thanks muchly to you both. That's a great fog lifter as per right elbow cocking the left wrist rwh. There's obviously no need to force the cock or exaggerate it, which is great to know. Just reread your chapter recommendation. Excellent.
Thanks Bagger, from the great posts of you guys in other sites i have picked up on the folding back of the right wrist. No fog at all now. I think it would be awesome to have a clip of the right forearm/pickup action one day, it seems to be one the the most important TGM concepts as well as the flying wedges. Thanks again guys 
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