Snare/Symptoms

[lagster]

How about a discussion on Snares 3-F and 6-H-O and the symptoms from violating or mis-applying some of these things. I realize some of the information in 6-H-O can be optional for Swinging and Hitting, but there is some Snare-type information there also. The book talks about some of the problems, but I'm sure many of you can list others.

Steering is the "number one malfunction", but I will start with Bobbing, in Zone 1.

What are some of the symptoms for-- A. Bobbing Up on the Backswing(Backstroke)? B. Bobbing Down on the Backswing? C. Bobbing Up on the Downstroke? D. Bobbing Down on the Downstroke?

[Yoda]

What are some of the symptoms for-- A. Bobbing Up on the Backswing(Backstroke)? B. Bobbing Down on the Backswing? C. Bobbing Up on the Downstroke? D. Bobbing Down on the Downstroke?

A discussion on the Four Snares is long overdue, lagster. Thanks!



Just remember everybody, the Four Snares could have been labeled the Four Symptoms. Let's get to the myriad of diseases!

[Burner]

How about a discussion on Snares 3-F and 6-H-O and the symptoms from violating or mis-applying some of these things. I realize some of the information in 6-H-O can be optional for Swinging and Hitting, but there is some Snare-type information there also. The book talks about some of the problems, but I'm sure many of you can list others.

Steering is the "number one malfunction", but I will start with Bobbing, in Zone 1.

What are some of the symptoms for-- A. Bobbing Up on the Backswing(Backstroke)? B. Bobbing Down on the Backswing? C. Bobbing Up on the Downstroke? D. Bobbing Down on the Downstroke?

OK, just for starters I will chuck in my 2c.

The primary symptom for all 4 snares mentioned arises out of a desire to hit at the ball hard rather than swing through the ball in a controlled fashion.
i.e Gorilla the swing up and then King Kong it back down again.

[drewitgolf]

When a players Head moves from its Impact Fix Location, there is usually a change in the amount of Knee Bend or Waist Bend, both of which may be the result of "other things". Maintaining the isoceles triangle of Centered Head and Feet established at Fix and using a mirror or video camara would do a world of good to stop the "Roberts" (Bobs).

[BCGolf]

A large part of Bobbing is placing the head too low in impact fix and adjusted address. The incorrect but classic "Keep your head down" disrupts any chance of a still head. Percy Boomer coached golfers to "Brace yourself up"! This allows a still head.

[lagster]

With Bobbing, as with many things in G.O.L.F., the 3rd Law applies. There must be some reaction the the Bob. One of the possible reactions is some type of Radius Adjustment. You do occasionally see some good players whose head appears to drop on the Downswing(Tiger Woods is one). The good players seem to often adjust by (leaning the shaft more forward), and another way to adjust would be to (bend the left arm), which usually doesn't work as well. Somehow the radius must match up at Impact in order to strike the ball. I got this from teaching with George Kelnhofer several years ago.

[lagster]

With Bobbing, as with many things in G.O.L.F., the 3rd Law applies. There must be some reaction to the Bob. One of the possible reactions is some type of Radius Adjustment. You occasionally do see some good players whose head appears to drop on the Downswing(Tiger Woods is one). The good players seem to often adjust by (leaning the shaft more forward), and another way to adjust would be to (bend the left arm), which usually doesn't work as well. Somehow the radius must match up at Impact in order to strike the ball. I got this from teaching with George Kelnhofer several years ago.

[spike]

Once the clubhead starts moving toward your head in the backswing the defense mechanism takes over and the body tries to keep that club from getting too close.

Then they realise their head is too far away from the ball and try to bring it back at least to the point they originally started from at address.

Like the two guys playing golf a hundred years ago on a very windy day. One guy kept topping the ball and the other yelled across the the fairway to him. After the round they sat at the bar talking about how windy it was and the one guy says, "By the way, what the heck happended out there? All of a sudden at address you were looking like a vulture!"

The other guy says, "That's becasue you said I have to keep my head down!"

His buddy then says, "Naw, you didn't hear me right. I said you have to get your clubhead down!"

Guess what stuck in our minds after all these years?