Ott

[airair]

Any suggestions how to avoid coming OTT? Does it matter if one is a hitter or a swinger in this case? What does TGM say? - I cant find my way around this book - yet.

[KevCarter]

Any suggestions how to avoid coming OTT? Does it matter if one is a hitter or a swinger in this case? What does TGM say? - I cant find my way around this book - yet.

Change the way you look at the book!

The book doesn't really worry about things that can't be defined by geometry, rather it focuses on the correct geometry.

Define over the top. How much? Is it a feel?

The book discusses the plane. Staying on plane. Tracing. If you are coming OTT, you are off plane on the downstroke. Your plane is moving left. Work on getting back on plane.

Is the club out of position at the top?
• Proper shoulder turn on backstroke
• Enough hip turn on back stroke

Downstroke Problem?
• Taking right shoulder down the plane
• Work on tracing with flashlights

Rather than thinking about how not to be OTT, think about how to get on plane. The proper geometry may turn on a light bulb for you.

Kevin

[EdZ]

A drill to help you feel that right shoulder going down plane...


in a golf posture, no club - make a fist with your left hand and point your thumb to your right, away from the target

grip your left thumb with your right hand from underneath (your right palm should be up)


from that position, use your right forearm to lift the left arm amd make the left thumb point at your right shoulder at the top fo your swing


for the OTT drill, practice taking that up and down from address to impact

notice how the right shoulder stays 'down and under' - and prevents the OTT move

notice also that your right forearm is below the left


next practice back the through - at the finish get the left thumb pointing to your left ear, to get there, you need to keep the pivot moving, and let the left arm swivel (roll)

see the link in my signature for other variations on this drill

[airair]

Good stuff here.
Thx to both.

[airair]

Change the way you look at the book!

The book doesn't really worry about things that can't be defined by geometry, rather it focuses on the correct geometry.

Define over the top. How much? Is it a feel?

The book discusses the plane. Staying on plane. Tracing. If you are coming OTT, you are off plane on the downstroke. Your plane is moving left. Work on getting back on plane.

Is the club out of position at the top?
• Proper shoulder turn on backstroke
• Enough hip turn on back stroke

Downstroke Problem?
• Taking right shoulder down the plane
• Work on tracing with flashlights

Rather than thinking about how not to be OTT, think about how to get on plane. The proper geometry may turn on a light bulb for you.

Kevin

I'm sure you are 100% right regarding how to approach these matters. But the light bulb isn't turned on yet. It's still kind of dark..