CF in hitting.
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07-29-2012, 07:33 AM
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CF in hitting.
Do U include any cf in your hitting procedure? if so, where, how, and how much?
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07-29-2012, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear
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Do U include any cf in your hitting procedure? if so, where, how, and how much?
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There is no cf in pure Hitting. The pivot accumulator, #4, is not used. 4-barrel Hitting uses a right shoulder drive before firing the right triceps, and it can go as deep as you can without uncocking the left wrist before firing the right triceps. If the LW starts unlocking from cf and you fire the right triceps then you will kill the club head lag created by cf. It's theoretically possible to recreate the lag with the right triceps, but not likely, and you will end up pushing a dead shaft through impact.
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07-29-2012, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear
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Do U include any cf in your hitting procedure? if so, where, how, and how much?
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The left arm is always swinging.
Bumpy
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07-29-2012, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumpy
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Forgot who I was responding to, this is a test isn't it?
Any mass, connected to and rotating around an axis will have a CF. The only way to zero CF is to move the axis parallel to the path the mass would travel if not connected. --OR-- (for the sake of brevity)
The left arm is always swinging.
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Left arm is moving, but not from pivot power, only from the right triceps. Check out the yellow book - Hitting accumulators are 1,2,3. No #4.
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07-29-2012, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
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Left arm is moving, but not from pivot power, only from the right triceps. Check out the yellow book - Hitting accumulators are 1,2,3. No #4.
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Hitting or Swinging is irrelevant, the left arm swings.
Back to your regularly scheduled program:
Originally Posted by HungryBear
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Do U include any cf in your hitting procedure? if so, where, how, and how much?
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07-29-2012, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumpy
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Hitting or Swinging is irrelevant, the left arm swings.
Back to your regularly scheduled program:
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We have a piece of good ibformation. The left arm swings. with Zero #4 accumulator the arm swings- There is cf.
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07-29-2012, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear
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We have a piece of good ibformation. The left arm swings. with Zero #4 accumulator the arm swings- There is cf.
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That's a piece of garbage, not good info. If the left arm swung in a pure Hiitting pattern, then Power Accumulator #4 would be included for a Hitting pattern, but it is not. The left arm is pushed out of the way by the right triceps, it doesn't swing. 
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07-29-2012, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
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That's a piece of garbage, not good info. If the left arm swung in a pure Hiitting pattern, then Power Accumulator #4 would be included for a Hitting pattern, but it is not. The left arm is pushed out of the way by the right triceps, it doesn't swing.
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Swung is swung
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07-30-2012, 02:43 AM
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MizunoJoe,
There is only one requirement for CF to be present in a golf stroke. And that requirement is strictly geometrical. Any time the club head has a somewhat curved path (which is basically all the time from top to finish) there will be CF present.
Hitting or swinging doesn't make a difference.
CF is nothing more (and nothing less) than club head inertia's response to an inward pulling effort (the other CF, Centripetal Force). The swinger manipulates these CF's to harness & control the throw-out and thereby the release. The hitter relies less on CF manipulation and more on muscle force to release the club and square up the club face, but both CF's are still present, has to be negotiated and is a key enabler to an efficient stroke with a chain reaction like release.
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07-30-2012, 11:33 AM
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I agree.
Originally Posted by Bumpy
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Forgot who I was responding to, this is a test isn't it?
Any mass, connected to and rotating around an axis will have a CF. The only way to zero CF is to move the axis parallel to the path the mass would travel if not connected. --OR-- (for the sake of brevity)
The left arm is always swinging.
Bumpy
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The "taking out of the slack" and shooting cross-line guarantees CF being present though for me at this point it is more an around CF and less of a down CF for swinging. The CF is present in the straight left arm having been stretched with Extensor Action.
http://youtu.be/c3C1__L5usM
http://youtu.be/1y2fH0ooCoQ
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Last edited by innercityteacher : 07-30-2012 at 11:54 AM.
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