[Daryl]

Awesome drawings D, really.

My thoughts:

-Seeing these drawings to scale is very interesting isnt it. Homer's drawings were not to scale Im thinking for illustrative purposes maybe?

- I've wondered about playing the ball back with a wedge....6 inches back doesnt seem excessive to my mind, but without coming up prematurely that implies a 12" inch divot doesnt it. I could see that on super soft , wet soggy turf maybe but not otherwise. So do we not play it that far back, come up early or perhaps deflect out of , off the tera firma? I dunno.

-you are assuming the low point plane line to be defined by the sweetspot rather than the bottom of the club. It doesnt change your findings at all but it would illustrate the depth the clubhead would descend to beneath the ground at low point for balls played back in the stance and determine the length of divot too, I think.

-I wished you'd posted this in my thread but maybe its run it course anyways.............. here's whats bugging me. Homer in his drawing 2-C-1-3 drew the Angle of Approach as straight line from impact to separation. Separation appearing to be at low point. But in 2-J-3 he describes in words, the Angle as running from Impact to Low Point. So taking him on his words of 2-J-3, how would drawing 2-C-1-3 change if separation is back of low point, as it often is? The LOC will not be both pointing at the hole and pointing down the Arc of Approach for instance as the Arc will be out to the right. The Arc and the Angle will not intersect at Separation. What does it all mean?

We need a new 2-C-1-3 for balls back in the stance.

Great stuff D thanks

2-C-1 LINEAR FORCE – THE IDEAL APPLICATION IDEAL VECTOR ALIGNMENT (SHOWN WITH IMPACT INTERVAL EXTENDED TO LOW POINT).

1. Homers Drawings were extended to Low-Point for Illustrative purposes (see above quote).

2. We can move this thread to your thread if you like.

3. Dear O.B. Left; The Clubface is hooked to divert forces from going out to right field.

But you brought up 2 very Important Points.

The Angle of Approach is "Plane Angle" from the Impact Point to Low-Point and it should be represented with a "Looking Down" Drawing as in 2-C-1 #3. If you Draw the "Angle of Approach" in a Down-the-Line-View, as in 2-C-1#1, it "is" the Sweetspot Plane Angle - i.e. it is lying flat against the Sweetspot Plane. Therefore it is always intersecting. See the Illustration below. The Sweetspot Plane "is" the Angle of Approach: the Green Line




The 2nd Point is that the "Point of Impact and the Point of Separation" must be the same.

Imagine this, as sickening as it is......

12 Piece Bucket is on his first date. He tries to kiss her good night. He puts his hands on the side of her head like a clamp to stop her from pulling away (he learned from experience). So that as much and often as she struggles, his lips will touch hers and at separation his lips will still be touching hers when he lets go. Now imagine if, during her struggle, her head rotated up the face of the inclined striker. At separation, his lips would be touching her "forehead" (lob shot). That's why we must "Hinge" through the Impact Interval. We must have Impact Point and Separation Point, the same point on the Ball. We do not want the ball to Roll up the face of the Inclined Striker. This is for Maximum Compression. See the quote below.

2-C-1 LINEAR FORCE ... This is designated the “Ideal Application” because it produces perfect Vector alignments because the Angled Clubshaft and the Closing Clubface (the “Full Roll” of Horizontal Hinge Action – 7-10) are rotating around the same center and there is no glancing force except for backspin.

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So, I think that we should tell the "D Plane" people that their goal is to make the ball "ROLL" up the Clubface as much as possible to keep the spin axis horizontal to the ground thereby eliminating side-spin and increasing backspin for more lift and carry. Then hit up with the Driver and learn to hit up with the wedges too.