#19 01-09-2014, 04:17 AM MizunoJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 719 The real problem with that photo is that it will cause a student to over accelerate the hands instead of getting the passive hands ahead of the club head at impact by using the pivot only. MizunoJoe View Public Profile Send a private message to MizunoJoe Find all posts by MizunoJoe