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Old 07-18-2007, 12:35 AM
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I think this is where the rubber meets the road . . . for some reason some people get this game better and quicker than others. Is it talent or learning? Do we all have ample enough talent to be low handicappers or is it beyond capabilities or can we learn it? If so HOW? Seems like kids can learn anything . . . something gets screwed up somehow for most of us.
Bucket,

We all get what we get. Are there some people who can't be low handicappers? Probably. Is it easier for some than others? Yes. Does it help to start young, get good instruction, and be around a bunch of good players? Definitely. What if we did not have these advantages?

You have to be smart about how you learn the game. Consistent imput about the swing=TGM. Good use of time on short game and putting. Learning to manage the game and yourself. Get some clubs you like and stick with them. Same with the ball. Try to eliminate as many variables as possible. Hit the same shot. Play smart but aggressive.

Bucket, I think you are due for a break out season. You are doing all the right stuff, you just have to patient with the results.

HB
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:02 AM
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Bucket, I think you are due for a break out season. You are doing all the right stuff, you just have to patient with the results.

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I totally agree that Bucket is a Patient and he's got some kind of breakout- is that what you were saying?
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:35 PM
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About a year or so ago, I was introduced to Keygolf. Just the ability to define certain concepts, and realise they are measurable, have freed me from past blockages towards understanding.

For example: Building a Belief System

1. Trust (developed in the first year of your life)
2. Knowledge
3. Skill development/management
4. Confidence

These are what's inside a belief system. Carey Mumford is truly hot in this area!
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:23 PM
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John Riegger and Brian Gay are making steady improvement. The consistency of their progress speaks to the instruction they are getting. Input = output. I am interested in how they integrate their swing changes into their game. Does it change as the swing becomes more engrained? Does the focus change as the pressure builds?

I worked a few times for a player last year who was making a swing change. He worked very hard on mechanics early in the week and tapered to more feel as Thursday approached. Prior to the round, he might do a few drills to remind himself of what he was trying to do, but he was looking for a simple feel to take to the course. After the round, he would do some technical work, but he was still less tech and more feel. Then, he would start over the next week.

Overkill and I were talking the other day, and we think that you can get away with thinking more swing with a bigger target like a drive to the fairway. As the target gets smaller (hole), the focus needs to be much more on the target.

I hope we can get some comments from the tour players and instructors.

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Old 07-26-2007, 09:04 PM
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Power is a great feeling....controlling power is even better.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:29 PM
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Answering Bucket from another thread
Bucket,

Swing changes. I've talked to some teachers and read some books about changing technique. The smartest thing I have heard is that you have to understand it. When you get clear in your mind what needs to change and why, the swing improves quickly. Not effortlessly. They use video and drills to correlate actual changes with feels.

I saw an interesting pairing on the range. Two players side by side doing the most opposite drills I could imagine. One player was hitting wedges with a ball on a tee outside the target line and behind his ball to encourage a wide outside takeaway. On his backswing, he would bump the ball off the tee with the back of his club. The other player was hitting a driver with a golfbag inside the target line and close to encourage an inside takeaway with a quick wrist set. I don't think you could have two theories father apart.

Tour players make small changes easily. They are great atheletes. When they make bigger changes, they sometimes get good results quickly, but then have a period when they play golf swing rather than golf. Their short games suffer from neglect as they spend extra time on the range. They can get stuck between old swing and new swing and struggle.

For many players, the promise of greater consistency in the future out weighs the short term frustration of making significant swing changes. Once the changes become engrained they return to a more normal routine.

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