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The Other Game - Putting
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08-01-2009, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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Mike, if you would be so kind.....
When Bruce Hough and others took Homer out golfing in the late 1970's, did Homer employ a negative loft method or putter?
It seems radical to many but I have a friend who is absolutely deadly with his hands so far in front of his old Ping Anser that the face is looking down at the ground. Good greens or bad, in fact he is a superior crap green putter. Sort of a down then up type stroke, making contact above the balls equator. He is always sort of chuckling to himself too.........
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I can't tell you what method or putter Homer Kelley used when he played with Bruce, Jay and Don.
I do know that Homer Kelley would have liked the fact that your friend had a stroke that put "immediate" over spin on the ball 2-C-4, reducing or eliminating skid.
I do know that Mr. Kelley had three different putters to work with different stroke types. Specifically, the reverse lofted putter is only needed for a "true swinging" putting motion in that the face is only square at low point (at least for a straight faced putter) and that the reverse loft is therefore needed if you wanted to hit the ball above the equator at low point - in order to give the ball overspin and start it rolling right away. Since he didn't tend to putt using a true swinging procedure- I'd guess that he wasn't using a reverse loft putter for that round of golf.
Hopefully DG or Bucket will now threadjack this thread - because the power just went out and I need to head down to the freezer and check on some of my prized possesions - they don't do well when they thaw - I'll double check to make sure that my "Bucket" shelf is still empty.
However, as always - it's not so much what putting procedure you are using but rather the importance of understanding one's putting procedure in order to repeat it and correct it when necessary.
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08-02-2009, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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Hopefully DG or Bucket will now threadjack this thread - because the power just went out and I need to head down to the freezer and check on some of my prized possesions - they don't do well when they thaw - I'll double check to make sure that my "Bucket" shelf is still empty.
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Bucket,
Stop playing with the hampster put it back on its wheel. Mikey lost power again.
Jay Perkins (Mike mentioned as Jay), GSEM and putter inventor who visits this site frequently, played numerous times wit Mr. Kelley. Maybe, on his next visit, he could shed a little light on this.
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08-03-2009, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf
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Bucket,
Stop playing with the hampster put it back on its wheel. Mikey lost power again.
Jay Perkins (Mike mentioned as Jay), GSEM and putter inventor who visits this site frequently, played numerous times wit Mr. Kelley. Maybe, on his next visit, he could shed a little light on this.
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Please do Jay. This is history.
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08-03-2009, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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I do know that Mr. Kelley had three different putters to work with different stroke types. Specifically, the reverse lofted putter is only needed for a "true swinging" putting motion in that the face is only square at low point (at least for a straight faced putter) and that the reverse loft is therefore needed if you wanted to hit the ball above the equator at low point - in order to give the ball overspin and start it rolling right away. Since he didn't tend to putt using a true swinging procedure- I'd guess that he wasn't using a reverse loft putter for that round of golf.
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Thanks Mike
I'd have thought it would work for a linear clubhead path too, like a top spin pool cue shot. I dunno. Why not? Although my friend does have a very flat shoulder turn powered putting stroke and a horizontal type hinge. And a chuckle to himself that drives his playing partners crazy.
O.B.
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08-03-2009, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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Thanks Mike
I'd have thought it would work for a linear clubhead path too, like a top spin pool cue shot. I dunno. Why not? Although my friend does have a very flat shoulder turn powered putting stroke and a horizontal type hinge. And a chuckle to himself that drives his playing partners crazy.
O.B.
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If you really want an answer to "Why not?" let me know. Wasn't sure you really wanted an answer to your question.
P.S. Drew, I lit it up at Falmouth Country Club today
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08-03-2009, 08:48 PM
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How low did you go?
Originally Posted by Mike O
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P.S. Drew, I lit it up at Falmouth Country Club today
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What were you smokin'? Some of that Bucket hand-wrap "secret herbs and spices"?
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08-03-2009, 08:51 PM
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Down the Cape
Originally Posted by Mike O
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If you really want an answer to "Why not?" let me know. Wasn't sure you really wanted an answer to your question.
P.S. Drew, I lit it up at Falmouth Country Club today
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I expect you to go everytime you tee it up. Nice course. Haven't been there in awhile. Hopefully you took home some "pocket change".
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08-05-2009, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf
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I expect you to go everytime you tee it up. Nice course. Haven't been there in awhile. Hopefully you took home some "pocket change".
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One $200 Kayak, $200 in gift certificates in the proshop converted to ProV1x's
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08-03-2009, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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P.S. Drew, I lit it up at Falmouth Country Club today
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Falmouth in Maine or Mass.?
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08-04-2009, 06:24 PM
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Northern Lights
Originally Posted by mb6606
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Falmouth in Maine or Mass.?
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Good point Michael! Forgot about Falmouth, Maine. Once you cross the border from Massachusetts into New Hampshire, you have hit the point of no return..."Big Foot" Territory.
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