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Old 09-04-2010, 01:17 PM
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It happens at release. Only with a driver or longer woods. The feel is that the club is so heavy it stops my hands. If I slow everything down to create a smoother heavy motion I have no club head speed. I crank it up and I get this convulsive lag pressure near impact and a late release action which makes squareing the clubface difficult.

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The thing that confuses me is that the feeling you describe of the hands slowing down......would normally be associated with a loss of lag pressure. Is there any way that you are mistaking the feel of "Throwaway" for Lag Pressure?

Just a wild guess. My apologies if Im way off the mark.

But it is common for a person who encounters an open face geometry at impact to (subconsciously) start to steer the clubhead path to the left and at the same time throw the clubhead at the ball. An effort to start the ball further left to give it more room to fade and to square the face. Two wrongs , making for a compensated swing and a ruination of the ideal impact geometry as outlined in 2-C-0.

Its interesting to me that even armed with knowledge of Homers ideal impact geometry .......I am still subject to this sort of thing. Perhaps we all hold on to this "seems as if" false logic somewhere deep within the recesses of our golfing minds? Homer himself noted that he didnt Steer dandelions. From which you could deduce that even he, the man who defined Steering , was subject to it's false logic when confronted with a golf ball. ( I always like the way Lynn says "confronted by the ball", "in the presence of the ball" , "the ball as tyrant", etc)

When Im hitting unintentional fades that are starting to lose distance...."muffins"......I have to stop myself and give myself a 2-C-0 lesson. Arc of Approach, Inside/Out Impact for a straight line base line, Horizontal Hinging. Its THE cure for a plane line bent to the left and throwaway as a method of closing the clubface. Homer called this: "Cut shot therapy." In its most heightened state it can bring out the dreaded , shank. Forgive me for speaking its name in this house.

And hence as Lynn so eloquently notes in his Finish Swivel movie......the only line in the entire 12-3-0 mission critical MECHANICAL CHECKLIST FOR ALL STROKES which is capitalized, bolded and italicized is Section 6. number 22: From Top: DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP. Note the extra emphasis on the "Roll". Overtaking must happen. In the ideal manner its via a Flat and Rolling Left Wrist. Horizontal Hinging, inside out impact..... its a lesson I need to keep giving myself, probably always will. Add a little lag pressure to this geometry and golf becomes an easy game again.

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Old 09-04-2010, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
.............. Is there any way that you are mistaking the feel of "Throwaway" for Lag Pressure?

............But it is common for a person who encounters an open face geometry at impact to (subconsciously) start to steer the clubhead path to the left and at the same time throw the clubhead at the ball. ..................... making for a compensated swing and a ruination of the ideal impact geometry as outlined in 2-C-0.

Its interesting to me that even armed with knowledge of Homers ideal impact geometry .......I am still subject to this sort of thing. Perhaps we all hold on to this "seems as if" false logic somewhere deep within the recesses of our golfing minds? Homer himself noted that he didnt Steer dandelions. From which you could deduce that even he, the man who defined Steering , was subject to it's false logic when confronted with a golf ball. ( I always like the way Lynn says "confronted by the ball", "in the presence of the ball" , "the ball as tyrant", etc)

When Im hitting unintentional fades that are starting to lose distance...."muffins"......I have to stop myself and give myself a 2-C-0 lesson. Arc of Approach, Inside/Out Impact for a straight line base line, Horizontal Hinging. Its THE cure for a plane line bent to the left and throwaway as a method of closing the clubface. Homer called this: "Cut shot therapy." In its most heightened state it can bring out the dreaded , shank. Forgive me for speaking its name in this house.

And hence as Lynn so eloquently notes in his Finish Swivel movie......the only line in the entire 12-3-0 mission critical MECHANICAL CHECKLIST FOR ALL STROKES which is capitalized, bolded and italicized is Section 6. number 22: From Top: DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP. Note the extra emphasis on the "Roll". Overtaking must happen. In the ideal manner its via a Flat and Rolling Left Wrist. Horizontal Hinging, inside out impact..... its a lesson I need to keep giving myself, probably always will. Add a little lag pressure to this geometry and golf becomes an easy game again.
Yes- Let me assume that this is throwaway- Yes it is- because denial will never fix anything.

Let’s look at local conditions:
I can not do well trying to hit the ball. I MUST mentally go from top to follow-through and let the ball get in the way if it chooses. I guess Homer would call it a dandelion.

To my best observations I do not have a problem with quitting

BUT

I can have a problem with compression. When It gets "ragged".

I can pound energy into a tire all day.

I can smack a flat club shaft as hard as I like against any flat vertical surface that dares stand 6-10 inches outside my left foot.

So- first a thanks then a How is this "cut shot " therapy done? I have read it many times but never understood what or how it is done??

I bet if I said (I will not admit it.) that with all those good conditions above then the problem would show up as a little "chicken-wingy" U would say. Ah Ha!

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Old 09-04-2010, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post

I bet if I said (I will not admit it.) that with all those good conditions above then the problem would show up as a little "chicken-wingy" U would say. Ah Ha!

The Bear
You'd be correct. When the Clubhead overtakes the Hands but with a bending left wrist (and straightening right wrist) the chicken wing is often not far behind. Like a bunch of Sabres fans leaving the Aud back in the old days.

Cut shot Therapy for Dummies , my next book, will be very short. "Keep swinging OUT and rolling the Flat Left Wrist until you are hitting draws that start right and curve back to the middle......then back it off a bit cause you've gone too far".

Its a Clubhead path and a Clubface problem. The Clubhead the Delivery Line must be fixed first. Keep swinging out till your divots are straight. Then fix the Clubface by Rolling a flat left wrist. The enemy is Throwaway as a method of closing the face. As long as you have Lag Pressure you have a lagging clubhead condition and have not thrown it away.

To paraphrase 12-3 #22. (Inside/out) Delivery Line , (Horizontal Hinge) Roll Preparation (when your at your Top) but add some Lag Pressure through the ball. There's the book in one sentence. Dont know if Lynn would concur but I tried.

Homer said that Impact is Inside/Out for a straight line Base Line. 2-J-2. He also said that it should feel this way too! This is a straight shot Im talking about here.

No one is ever totally free from the need for cut shot therapy. Its like the common cold for golfers. Its Steering. It afflicts even those who understand 2-C, sadly, ironically.

It so sneaky the way it infects your game. For me I normally draw the ball but Ill start hitting little fades one day which are quite useful actually. But if Im losing compression I know I'm starting to steer the clubhead path , bend the plane line to the left a little, perhaps to give me room for the fade. A compensation and very subconscious too....my subconscious still works under the "old ball flight laws" for some reason. It can progress from there if left unchecked, with Throwing the clubhead past hands as a way of closing the face.......compensation #2. Which adds two way misses to the lost compression. One tee shot hooks straight left then next one fades weakly into the rough.. It takes weeks to develop into a full blown problem and it can take some time to correct but the cure is always the same. Cut shot therapy. Fix the Delivery Line, fix the Hinge Action add Lag Pressure in place of Throwaway.

The problem is that the 2-C geometry is so counter intuitive.

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