Right Arm bend into impact

[gmbtempe]

Why do some players have more right arm bend into impact than others?

I tend to maintain the more bend more than I think anyone would prescribe from top of the swing, to delivery, then into impact.

What would cause this? What does this tend to do to the golf swing? Is this a problem with the motion of the shoulders?

I know it sounds simple, just straighten it earlier but I have found no mechanical way to make this happen.

Does it matter?

[12 piece bucket]

Why do some players have more right arm bend into impact than others?

I tend to maintain the more bend more than I think anyone would prescribe from top of the swing, to delivery, then into impact.

What would cause this? What does this tend to do to the golf swing? Is this a problem with the motion of the shoulders?

I know it sounds simple, just straighten it earlier but I have found no mechanical way to make this happen.

Does it matter?

YES . . . Matters . . . could be you have too much axis tilt too early . . . if you don't release #4 and #1 you have to get to the ball some how . . . As a result you lower the club via tilting your shoulders . . . and likely moving your head back. Move can be a face opener and shift the plane right move.

Could be a result of the face or something . . . seems like I remember you having a shut face right? Could be you are trying to "get under the face" by tilting back to get loft thus your right arm doesn't straighten because you have disrupted the "radius" . . . put the swing up and lets have a look.

[airair]

I probably straighten my right arm too much too soon. Needs some work. What exactly is the importance of maintaining this bend all the way to impact? Does it give more force/speed or a better angle (of approach/attack) - or what is it?

[Etzwane]

I probably straighten my right arm too much too soon. Needs some work. What exactly is the importance of maintaining this bend all the way to impact? Does it give more force/speed or a better angle (of approach/attack) - or what is it?

To sustain the down and out motion through the impact interval ?

[12 piece bucket]

I probably straighten my right arm too much too soon. Needs some work. What exactly is the importance of maintaining this bend all the way to impact? Does it give more force/speed or a better angle (of approach/attack) - or what is it?

basically it's like a punch... would you rather have somebody punch you with a completely straight arm when it impacts your jaw or would you rather have them have some bend at the elbow and straighten it thru jaw . . .

So you basically want to have some accumulator left to bust the ball with . . . BUT . . . you do want it to straighten . . . don't hang on to the bend like this cat could be doing . . . for a multitude of possible reasons.

[airair]

basically it's like a punch... would you rather have somebody punch you with a completely straight arm when it impacts your jaw or would you rather have them have some bend at the elbow and straighten it thru jaw . . .

So you basically want to have some accumulator left to bust the ball with . . . BUT . . . you do want it to straighten . . . don't hang on to the bend like this cat could be doing . . . for a multitude of possible reasons.

If I could choose - I would take a straight one to the jaw.

[gmbtempe]

YES . . . Matters . . . could be you have too much axis tilt too early . . . if you don't release #4 and #1 you have to get to the ball some how . . . As a result you lower the club via tilting your shoulders . . . and likely moving your head back. Move can be a face opener and shift the plane right move.

Could be a result of the face or something . . . seems like I remember you having a shut face right? Could be you are trying to "get under the face" by tilting back to get loft thus your right arm doesn't straighten because you have disrupted the "radius" . . . put the swing up and lets have a look.

YES....that sounds very accurate.

A friend (you know him well I think), an AI who I am going to work with next week for 2 full days said I need to feel like my left shoulder stays down a long time in order to get rid of some of the excess axis tilt but to me that move feels like the shoulders are dead shut.

#4 and #1 just dont release properly, 4 is a Zone 1 problem for sure but I have no idea what do to with #1.

Never heard that about getting down to the ball, but yea my plane line gets all sent out to the right and I fight hooks and pushes.

My face used to be shut but I got that closer to what I think is best for me, its probably slightly shut.

Dont have good video of the swing, here are a couple stills from last night, 7 iron on a well calibrated flight scope (169 yard carry that over drew about 7 yards). Se what I mean about the right arm bend?



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This is what I would like if you look at Appleby.

[12 piece bucket]

YES....that sounds very accurate.

A friend (you know him well I think), an AI who I am going to work with next week for 2 full days said I need to feel like my left shoulder stays down a long time in order to get rid of some of the excess axis tilt but to me that move feels like the shoulders are dead shut.

#4 and #1 just dont release properly, 4 is a Zone 1 problem for sure but I have no idea what do to with #1.

Never heard that about getting down to the ball, but yea my plane line gets all sent out to the right and I fight hooks and pushes.

My face used to be shut but I got that closer to what I think is best for me, its probably slightly shut.

Dont have good video of the swing, here are a couple stills from last night, 7 iron on a well calibrated flight scope (169 yard carry that over drew about 7 yards). Se what I mean about the right arm bend?



P6


This is what I would like if you look at Appleby.

Put the ball waaaaaaaay up in your stance and hit some balls and see what happens . . . can't tilt back and get to that ball . . . try to hit pull cuts.

you could maybe experiment with moving your aiming point "aft" of the ball . . . could help you lower the club by swinging your arms (#1 and #4) rather than lowering it by tilting your shoulders so much. So you could do left shoulder down ala your AI partna and move your aiming point aft . . . if you keep the shoulder down the club has gotta get down there somehow ideally by releasing #4 and #1.

Do some Hitting . . . you keep the bend in the elbow but it's not "perverted" Pitch . . . you need to get that right shoulder to work OUT TO THE PLANE . . . it's moving two vertical (resulting in shifting plane right and low pt back) . . . Launching Pad . . . Backstop for thrusting the Right Arm. Remember Right Shoulder geometry is down OUT and forward not just DOWN. Compare your pics to Appleby . . . certainly he's got the right arm bend but his right shoulder is working much more "out" to the plane than yours.

[gmbtempe]

Yea 12 piece, my shoulders work like a teeter taughter and the geometry is total bunk.

I envision the launching pad as a deliberate shoulder rotation, on plane, well before you move the hands. Its a sequenced movement of the right shoulder down plane following by a firing of the right arm.

The face on video camera they use compresses things, the ball was in the middle of my stance I guess, I can move it up as I normally do.

[12 piece bucket]

Yea 12 piece, my shoulders work like a teeter taughter and the geometry is total bunk.

I envision the launching pad as a deliberate shoulder rotation, on plane, well before you move the hands. Its a sequenced movement of the right shoulder down plane following by a firing of the right arm.

The face on video camera they use compresses things, the ball was in the middle of my stance I guess, I can move it up as I normally do.

No "normal" ball . . . put it up off your left toe or even further . . . . you can't get to that ball and have the shoulder move that vertical and "hang on" to the accumulators.