Delivery Lines - "What you lookin at ?"
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03-18-2006, 09:44 AM
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Delivery Lines - "What you lookin at ?"
2-J-3 Plane Line Equivalents.....
As stated before and again and....again...we need pictures for us to realyy get it...
The Base Line of the Inclined Plane is the True Geometric Plane Line it is not the only Delivery Reference Line available. Actualy there are two straight and one curved completely equivalent visual(what the eye beholds) reference lines for guiding the Clubhead into Impact during specific Delivery Procedures....
- A. The visual "True Arc" Delivery Line of the orbiting Clubhead with Circle Path(7-23....CURVED
- B. The visual "Angle of Approach" Delivery Line (2-N) with Line Delivery Paths per 6-E-2.....STRAIGHT
- C. The "left Arm Swing" Plane Delivery Line (10-6-D) with the Flip Release (10-24-F)....STRAIGHT (Read 10-6-D about the Left Arm)
The term "Deliver Path" refers to the Hands Only, per 7-23
The term "Delivery Line" refers to the Clubhead Only. And includes the Plane Line per 5-0.
etc...
The Right Foream also presents the correct Angle of Approach and its utilization is far superior to all other procedures. So during the Address Routine and Takeaway, adjust the Clubhead Angle of Approach to appear PARALLEL to the Right Forearm. Pre position and move the Pivot and Power Package Components per 2-N, 10-12-0 and 10-15-B to avoid Elbow- Right Hip conflict. Wth the "Angle of Approach" delivery , momentum carries the Clubhead "Above Plane" AFTER IMPACT - The "Arc Of Approach" tend to hold it "On Plane."
Thanks Yoda, Bucket, Ted, and Bray....I GOT IT!!! FINALLY!
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03-18-2006, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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2-J-3 Plane Line Equivalents.....
As stated before and again and....again...we need pictures for us to realyy get it...
The Base Line of the Inclined Plane is the True Geometric Plane Line it is not the only Delivery Reference Line available. Actualy there are two straight and one curved completely equivalent visual(what the eye beholds) reference lines for guiding the Clubhead into Impact during specific Delivery Procedures....
- A. The visual "True Arc" Delivery Line of the orbiting Clubhead with Circle Path(7-23....CURVED
- B. The visual "Angle of Approach" Delivery Line (2-N) with Line Delivery Paths per 6-E-2.....STRAIGHT
- C. The "left Arm Swing" Plane Delivery Line (10-6-D) with the Flip Release (10-24-F)....STRAIGHT (Read 10-6-D about the Left Arm)
The term "Deliver Path" refers to the Hands Only, per 7-23
The term "Delivery Line" refers to the Clubhead Only. And includes the Plane Line per 5-0.
etc...
The Right Foream also presents the correct Angle of Approach and its utilization is far superior to all other procedures. So during the Address Routine and Takeaway, adjust the Clubhead Angle of Approach to appear PARALLEL to the Right Forearm. Pre position and move the Pivot and Power Package Components per 2-N, 10-12-0 and 10-15-B to avoid Elbow- Right Hip conflict. Wth the "Angle of Approach" delivery , momentum carries the Clubhead "Above Plane" AFTER IMPACT - The "Arc Of Approach" tend to hold it "On Plane."
Thanks Yoda, Bucket, Ted, and Bray....I GOT IT!!! FINALLY!
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I'll try to take some pics for you, but they won't be easy. I was wondering if any of the explanations that I sent you in PM ever made any sense. 
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03-18-2006, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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I'll try to take some pics for you, but they won't be easy. I was wondering if any of the explanations that I sent you in PM ever made any sense.
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If anybody's got that Eldrick book . . . I can secure one. I'll draw some lines on the overhead shots of him. Should be VERY illustrative.
I think the visual equivalents are PURE genius. One of Mr. K's best. Wonder if the 7th will show any adjustments? I think the stuff whacked out of the 5th edition shoulda been left in.
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03-18-2006, 12:39 PM
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04-13-2006, 10:38 PM
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Laying down the dowels
This is really good stuff. Now that the procedures have been called out above, how they are executed?
I use the right forearm angle of approach for hitting. Can it be similar to swinging even with a pitch elbow position?
I like to lay my dowels down on the ground to see the lines better.
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12-11-2008, 07:45 PM
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pictures
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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2-J-3 Plane Line Equivalents.....
As stated before and again and....again...we need pictures for us to realyy get it...
The Base Line of the Inclined Plane is the True Geometric Plane Line it is not the only Delivery Reference Line available. Actualy there are two straight and one curved completely equivalent visual(what the eye beholds) reference lines for guiding the Clubhead into Impact during specific Delivery Procedures....
- A. The visual "True Arc" Delivery Line of the orbiting Clubhead with Circle Path(7-23....CURVED
- B. The visual "Angle of Approach" Delivery Line (2-N) with Line Delivery Paths per 6-E-2.....STRAIGHT
- C. The "left Arm Swing" Plane Delivery Line (10-6-D) with the Flip Release (10-24-F)....STRAIGHT (Read 10-6-D about the Left Arm)
The term "Deliver Path" refers to the Hands Only, per 7-23
The term "Delivery Line" refers to the Clubhead Only. And includes the Plane Line per 5-0.
etc...
The Right Foream also presents the correct Angle of Approach and its utilization is far superior to all other procedures. So during the Address Routine and Takeaway, adjust the Clubhead Angle of Approach to appear PARALLEL to the Right Forearm. Pre position and move the Pivot and Power Package Components per 2-N, 10-12-0 and 10-15-B to avoid Elbow- Right Hip conflict. Wth the "Angle of Approach" delivery , momentum carries the Clubhead "Above Plane" AFTER IMPACT - The "Arc Of Approach" tend to hold it "On Plane."
Thanks Yoda, Bucket, Ted, and Bray....I GOT IT!!! FINALLY!
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were the pictures ever posted?
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12-12-2008, 04:04 AM
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Tiger
I hope the pics from Tigers book are posed pics. Otherwise they kind of contributes to varidate the Manzella guardmans drill.
Jeeez in pic #4 it looks as if he's being pulled right (left in pic) by someone outside the frame.
From start to finish he's not very centered, even the point between .....seems right of center.
Is it just the pics being posed, the angle they've been shot from, or is this really why Tiger bobs and at that point of his career was all over the golfcourse with his woods??
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12-12-2008, 08:10 AM
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Tiger's Journey
Originally Posted by Thom
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I hope the pics from Tigers book are posed pics. Otherwise they kind of contributes to varidate the Manzella guardmans drill.
Jeeez in pic #4 it looks as if he's being pulled right (left in pic) by someone outside the frame.
From start to finish he's not very centered, even the point between .....seems right of center.
Is it just the pics being posed, the angle they've been shot from, or is this really why Tiger bobs and at that point of his career was all over the golfcourse with his woods??
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These photos were taken very early in Tiger's career and published in Golf Digest/ January 2001. He sure was "gettin' behind that ball", wasn't he? [He could have accomplished the same Impact Geometry by moving the ball more forward in his stance and leaving his head centered.] Fortunately, he long since has made dramatic (and well publicized) changes to 'center up' his head position and keep it more stationary.
I often use this sequence to show how a gifted player can make most anything 'work' (the "Compensated" Stroke), but can improve -- often dramatically -- when he understands the true geometric alignments involved and then brings his own Action into compliance. Golf is indeed a "game of inches", and sometimes, those "inches" are directly proportional to the "inches" of head movement.
Remember, Centered Arc is the principle. It is Law, and it is self-enforcing. Violators (however talented, famous and rich) will be punished, and that punishment is both immediate and obvious (erratic trajectories, distances and line).
Learn from Tiger's journey . . .
As he has.

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12-12-2008, 09:27 AM
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the bird's eye from the bird man
I love David's description, "visual-(what the eye beholds)". The Tiger pics are from a bird's eye view. They are not from the golfer's view.
Visual equivalents are visuals that the golfer sees. Any other camera angle is a distorted representation of what the "eye beholds".
I have no idea if I can create a screen capture of some 3'd imaging that I have. But, I'll get to work to see if I can make it happen.
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12-12-2008, 03:33 PM
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bird's eye view
Here's the clubhead inscribing and arc on the ground (horizontal plane).
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