Swing Change Project

Daryl · #81 11-14-2009, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by BurleyGolf

So not to be difficult but you might be aware I am not a TGM instructor or know the book very well. I am guessing that this is my swing componets explained? My question is am I moving in the right direction?

I played a tournament today and shot 76 with 4 birdies, I missed 1 fairway and hit 12 greens. My misses where all left and my good shot either playing a small littlefade or a small little push draw. I went to persimmon 1 week ago and played it today, I hit itlonger than I do with metal woods but the carry is a tad bit less.

My feel on the golf swing its self is that my stance is open, weight more on the right at address 40/60, my back swing or shoulder movement is like SnT, if I want to hit cuts I start my turn then open the hell out of the club the rest of the way tot he top and as I start the down swing the only thing I try to do is hold that wedge till finish, feels like I am pushing the handle through impact.

BurleyGolf-

Well, you're a Hitter. Just so you know, all of your components are on the elbow plane but your shaft is on the Turned shoulder plane. Someone earlier said that's like "coming over the Top at the Bottom of your swing". So, you'll go left.

Choose one of these two fixes.

Hogan fix: Bend the Left wrist at the top of the swing and downstroke and release to get the shaft on the elbow plane, then use the Hogan swivel through impact. Not a viable solution if right arm thrust uncocks the left wrist.

TGM fix: (your hands are too low at impact) Raise your hands and use the turned shoulder plane to match the Clubshaft. Then, the Simultaneous release won't yank the clubhead off plane.

BurleyGolf · #82 11-14-2009, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Daryl

Well, you're a Hitter. Just so you know, all of your components are on the elbow plane but your shaft is on the Turned shoulder plane. Someone earlier said that's like "coming over the Top at the Bottom of your swing". So, you'll go left.

Choose one of these two fixes.

Hogan fix: Bend the Left wrist at the top of the swing and downstroke and release to get the shaft on the elbow plane, then use the Hogan swivel through impact. Not a viable solution if right arm thrust uncocks the left wrist.

TGM fix: (your hands are too low at impact) Raise your hands and use the turned shoulder plane to match the Clubshaft. Then, the Simultaneous release won't yank the clubhead off plane.

Hogan Fix: 1.)Is what I talk about in my book as the Harley Move and is the cupping of the left wrist and its vertical hinging then, on the down swing the left cup is released and the right wrist is cupped/reverse bow while the vertical hinge is held laying off the club and moving the right elbow forward into position creating major lag. Only problem is myself, I have trouble getting the left wrist cupped and the thumbs under the shaft???

TGM Fix: 2.) This is the refference to the magic of the right forarm, correct? I understand this and what happens if the right arm is too low right shot, if the right forarm is too high left shots. It should be the same matching the shaft angle and not seeing the grip below the hands as I understand this to be a throaway of #3 PA and the RFFW, correct?

I like the Hogan Fix better because I like doing things the hard way, and I am a Hogan Ho... So with the video I have provided what is causing me too not be able to get the thumbs under the shaft and cup the left wrist A.) Not enough roll of the club face (Opening).. or B.) The left extensor action is being preformed the wrong way and there is too much pronation of the left forearm w/ hands rolling out?

BurleyGolf-

BurleyGolf · #83 11-15-2009, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by BurleyGolf

Hogan Fix: 1.)Is what I talk about in my book as the Harley Move and is the cupping of the left wrist and its vertical hinging then, on the down swing the left cup is released and the right wrist is cupped/reverse bow while the vertical hinge is held laying off the club and moving the right elbow forward into position creating major lag. Only problem is myself, I have trouble getting the left wrist cupped and the thumbs under the shaft???

TGM Fix: 2.) This is the refference to the magic of the right forarm, correct? I understand this and what happens if the right arm is too low right shot, if the right forarm is too high left shots. It should be the same matching the shaft angle and not seeing the grip below the hands as I understand this to be a throaway of #3 PA and the RFFW, correct?

I like the Hogan Fix better because I like doing things the hard way, and I am a Hogan Ho... So with the video I have provided what is causing me too not be able to get the thumbs under the shaft and cup the left wrist A.) Not enough roll of the club face (Opening).. or B.) The left extensor action is being preformed the wrong way and there is too much pronation of the left forearm w/ hands rolling out?

BurleyGolf-

Just wanted to get your opinion on this, or anyone else that understands the Machine. Yoda, I would like you to comment you know how much I value your opinion and knowledge.

BG-

Daryl · #84 11-15-2009, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by BurleyGolf

Just wanted to get your opinion on this, or anyone else that understands the Machine. Yoda, I would like you to comment you know how much I value your opinion and knowledge.

BG-

I'll give you an opinion.

Hogan, in his later years, was one of the greatest Golfers in the games history. His swivel has timing issues and obviously he found something else to get around them. So, the swivel isn't his secret or anything. I think his secret is somewhere in the pivot and lot's of passion and hard work.

The TGM "Turned Shoulder Plane" solution (it's much more than a solution)is as easy as it looks and it doesn't have timing issues especially when you consider that the "Roll" overlays the Hinge. The "Roll" and Hinge occur simultaneously. I've never considered the TGM swing a "Timing" swing. It's a sequenced alignment swing. No need to time dragging the wet mop. It gets there when it gets there with all components aligned.