Standard Hip Action vs. Delayed Hip Action

[gmbtempe]

my pic skillz suck on this one....

comments...

address...too much shoulder tilt... pre-tilt spine left...pre-turn right hip...pre-flex left knee some..pre-straighten right knee some..

you tell me on the downstroke want to hear what you think before I advise/comment

you've worked hard on your golf swing...it really shows...when Jeffy dissed you about not working hard...that's b.s....you've made some changes.

What I see

Well for me when I preset the hip its pulls the shoulder back, my guess is I am dropping the right shoulder giving it to much axis tilt. Setup you are correct, my machine guy in Tucson told me about this but it seems like I may need to pay even more attention based on the photo's.

at P2 shoulders not working in a circle which is about to start a bad chain reaction of the lifting up. At P3 you can see the shoulder starting to stall but its not an overall bad position.

P4 looks alright but the shoulder has flattened as I have raised.

P5 is horrid, hip is sliding out, shoulders are staying closed, looks like its going to be hard to get the club in front of me here.

P6 is not too bad other than the shoulder being no wheres near square. Hands are in a better position than normal. Too much axis tilt.

P7 is not bad really, good coordination to save it.

P8 there is a slight disconnect of the left arm and it has a slight chicken wing, guessing this happens due to off plane shoulder motion.


EDIT: thanks for all the good info Bucket, your one of the best!

[danattherock]

Box treatment.......film it and have a look....

It worked


Went to the range. Excited and a little nervous, like the first time you got some.... well, some.


I talked to myself on the ride over, prepping myself for the outcome either way. Yesterday hurt, no BS way to rationalize it. It was just painful. Shank city. Never had that happen before to that extent. Today was another day. Took a cardboard box about the size of a liquor box. Set it up and beat the ever living shet out of it. ha ha.. Of course I did, what did you expect?

Eddie calls while I am standing at the range about to start hitting balls. Like he knew I was in need of a pep talk. Ha ha.. He reminds me about the efficacy of the box drill. Got box? Check. Ready to change swing plane? Hell yeah. It begins.

After 3-4 box beatings, I found the right line and started hitting some nice, high, straight (laser straight) pitching wedge shots. At this point, I had already hit more good shots than all of the 100 balls yesterday. Now I am feeling a bit cocky. Took the ball off the small (1/4") tee and hit from the ground. Same awesome results. Shank was gone, just like that. I get even more cocky and take the box away and continue to hit about 60 7 irons. These went straight mostly, high, and far. I did notice a strong draw on some, slight push on some, but nothing that couldn't hit a green from 160. Interestingly enough, my 7 iron goes more like 145-150 with range balls. I was hitting the ball at least 10 yards further, into a stiff breeze no less.

Not sure what the heck happened. Got video, but will have to rely on you guys and Eddie to tell me what the difference is in yesterday. The ball knows the difference. I beat it like a red headed step child. Ass sore, crying, "BAD BALL". Man, today was fun. I think I can do it on demand now. Not sure if the video shows anything or not. Curious if you guys can see anything.


Today, my thoughts were simple. Try to keep the right elbow connected to my body in the backswing. Try to change the downswing so that I was not swinging outside as far. I did give some conscious thought to throwing my right shoulder into the mix more, but not sure I did it yet. The thought about turning the left shoulder down and around helped some. Still got much work to do with the right shoulder I suspect, but I did make an attempt today.



Yesterday, SHANK city...

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[danattherock]

Shankless Dan (just not sure why exactly)...


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[gmbtempe]

Bucket, so a pretty big component of the shoulders inclination is the left knee bend?

This man bends the left knee like crazy.

[12 piece bucket]

Bucket, so a pretty big component of the shoulders inclination is the left knee bend?

This man bends the left knee like crazy.

ABSOLUTELY!!!! To have the steepest shoulders ever had to bend the left knee...look at the right knee almost hyper extended....

[12 piece bucket]

Bucket, my feeble attempt at your pattern. I cant really get my shoulders anywheres close to steep, for me this is steep.

The more I trusted driving the right shoulder down the plane the better I hit it. There definitely is no attempt to use a swinging action here. I did hit it rather well.

http://youtu.be/5-pmnwzvG5M

http://youtu.be/Sj0siZw1Als

gmtempe....you SAY you can't get your shoulder steep....but you know how to get 'em SUPER steep on the down swing...imagine this as a left handed backswing...you is perfection as far as steep goes...so you "know how"....

[Taffy]

Shankless Dan (just not sure why exactly)...


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This shankless Dan is what I want to see Fri at MidPines!