Input on Book "The Final Missing Piece"

[Clay Huestis]

VJ,

I have also enjoyed the book very much and I hope it makes its way to a wider audience. I have a couple of questions, if you could be so kind to answer:

1) I think in Chapter 11 (I don't have the book with me) you talk of a "recent multiple winner on the PGA Tour" who does THE MOVE. Is there a reason you can't name him (or the "mystery" analyst who talks about the "fastest rotation on tour")? I'd be interested to know who it is, just to study more sequences and video of the move applied to another swing. My guess is Chad Campbell, but I am not too sure....

2) Like Powerdraw, I would like to hear some ideas about applying the principles of "the secret" to chipping and pitching. In my experimenting, I have found that for chipping, starting with the weight over the left leg seems to work well, and for pitching, doing the "move" without the bump. Any thoughts?

Once again thank you for an entertaining and informative book...to those of you who have not purchased it, I highly recommend it as a thoughtful piece of research and an original work of instruction. It is a privilege to be able to communicate directly with the author via this forum.

[dkerby]

In the book, One Move to Better Golf, Pg 18, Carl Rohren mentioned
"I noticed that when he (Hogan) was about half-way through his
backswing - his hands between the belt and the armpit - his lower
body started moving left. It amazed me that his lower body moved
forward so early, but I could readily see that Hogan couldn't
"Hit from the top" with that kind of action. There was no way the
right side could be brought into play too early with that swing."

My reading for the rest of the book, was that Rohren couldn't make
the move work for him was because he did not believe in axis tilt.
He seemed to work toward a verticle axis at all times?

[powerdraw]

I was also wondering what the TGM'ers think about this pivot motion?

And the fact that there is a 'slide' of the lowpoint from startup too impact to get to that forward ball location?

[Uppndownn]

I think the move is sensational. One of the great things is about TGM is the variety of options available. While some sequences of options are more effective than other sequences, Homer wanted us to know about them all. If this pivot sequence is more effective for you, use it when it works.

For me, that is a cool thing about TGM.

[phillygolf]

. BH was 90% on his left leg as the club started down v the "hip/weight transfer motion" (small step) in the WWoG clip.

I am sorry Roy,

But may I ask, how did you come up with that conclusion that Ben had 90% of his weight on left leg at start down?

Just curious.

Also, please forgive me, but I do not know whom you refer to - VJ - he might be the best. I do know a certain older man, whom saw Homer (yes, Homer!!!!), and whom player Demeret, Snead, and yes, Hogan (he was on his staff) whom, in his opinion, says Hogan's 'secret' was his cupped left wrist, nothing more.

His opinion, not mine.....

But....his is good enough for me.



Patrick

[GLFNVEG]

Bagger, 12 piece, RWH, Martee...and the rest of you guys, thank you. I appreciate Lynn and his crew for opening up the forum to discussion on "The Missing Piece." No soliciting here; but thank you very much for the input on the book.

As you can imagine it took time.....lots of time. I have evidence and research that Hogan used his body to eliminate one side of the golf course with his pivot. This information is presented in the book...but you guys are welcome to discuss all the facets of his golf swing...and how it may be applied to ours. Afterall, I learn everyday; just as you.

The pivot is Zone 1 for a reason.

VJ
I have read your book and loved it. I was immediately drawn to what you were talking about. I took a TGM class with Lynn and Ted up here in NY.
I was pleasantly surprised to see you here on this site as you being here just completes my circle as far as golf swing. Thanks for a wonderful book and a good read to boot.

Tommy

[phillygolf]

Also...

I meant no disrespect to VJ...I have been out of the loop for a few years. Just wanted to clarify.

Thanks,
Patrick

[EdZ]

First off, my great thanks to VJ for writing the book.

Considering this thread started around when my son was born, I'm not surprised I missed it, but I'm sure glad that I had a moment to order the book and video recently.

In a previous post, VJ said:

"Five Lessons now makes perfect sense.....at least for me."

And I could not agree more! Me too. As a life long student of the game, I've studied Hogan's Five Lessons with complete focus on trying to make his move, but could never quite get it. Over the years, I've had times where I could feel the things Hogan described, but never the whole package.

Having just read the book and watched the video, I went out this morning and hit a bucket. Mind you, I've had very little time for golf in the last 18 months, so the few rounds I've played have been less than ideal.

Right away I knew "The Final Missing Piece" was dead on correct. I have never felt PP#4 load so solidly, or the swinger's throw out so effortlessly.

For reasons VJ describes in the book, I too was prone to the push. I've always tended to hit a draw, and while I can hit fades on demand, I never felt comfortable.

Today I hit some of the best, most efficient fades I've ever hit. Best of all, the 'sizzle' and 'crack' is back at impact.

Rifle shots.

I think Schlee did the move, but perhaps didn't understand it, or couldn't articulate it. Others were close (Austin, Armour).

Thanks VJ. I can't wait to get this move on tape and see if what I am feeling is as close to Hogan's move as I think it is.

Your work deserves recogntion to say the least. Every copy of 5 Lessons should come with your video!

- EdZ

[hg]

First off, my great thanks to VJ for writing the book.

Considering this thread started around when my son was born, I'm not surprised I missed it, but I'm sure glad that I had a moment to order the book and video recently.

In a previous post, VJ said:

"Five Lessons now makes perfect sense.....at least for me."

And I could not agree more! Me too. As a life long student of the game, I've studied Hogan's Five Lessons with complete focus on trying to make his move, but could never quite get it. Over the years, I've had times where I could feel the things Hogan described, but never the whole package.

Having just read the book and watched the video, I went out this morning and hit a bucket. Mind you, I've had very little time for golf in the last 18 months, so the few rounds I've played have been less than ideal.

Right away I knew "The Final Missing Piece" was dead on correct. I have never felt PP#4 load so solidly, or the swinger's throw out so effortlessly.

For reasons VJ describes in the book, I too was prone to the push. I've always tended to hit a draw, and while I can hit fades on demand, I never felt comfortable.

Today I hit some of the best, most efficient fades I've ever hit. Best of all, the 'sizzle' and 'crack' is back at impact.

Rifle shots.

I think Schlee did the move, but perhaps didn't understand it, or couldn't articulate it. Others were close (Austin, Armour).

Thanks VJ. I can't wait to get this move on tape and see if what I am feeling is as close to Hogan's move as I think it is.

Your work deserves recogntion to say the least. Every copy of 5 Lessons should come with your video!

- EdZ

EdZ

I hope when you do tape the move you can also share it with us & post it...would love to sequence that one.

HG